Can't help with finding, but a warning - Honorine Jobert (tall white) has spread very aggressively in my yard, and is difficult to remove when it gets into rose bushes etc. I hand treated with Roundup and only got partial removal with it coming back completely in 2 years. The shorter pink forms seem to be better behaved... PPS if any one is interested in HJ they can come to Los Gatos and dig as much as they like...

I have successfully grown yarrow from seed. Salvia and Sage are the same thing, so if you have a specific plant in mind we would need a bit more info. Generally you are better off with small plants for Gaura, salvias, penstemon, anemones and chinese foxgloves. Obedient Plant does not grow here, and delphiniums are best purchased already huge and blooming at the nursery. I have never had one last more than two weeks though- it's just too hot for them here. I know it's not the same, but larkspur is a much better bet for Southern California. They grow best sown directly into the soil. Poppies- Oriental poppies do poorly in SoCal. Try Breadseed poppies (papaver somniferum) or Shirley poppies. These grow best direct sown. Other easy to grow from seed flowers are Feverfew, Paludosum daisies, red flax, blue flax, California poppies, elegant clarkia, godetia, linaria, nigella, annual coreopsis, Mexican Hat, nasturtium. Blue flax and Mexican Hat are perennial, and benefit from being started in a seed tray. Renee

My season's too short to be able to answer the repeat bloom question for you, but don't put the pine bark where you plant the hollyhock seeds. Once they've sprouted and gotten to a good size, then you can add mulch if you'd like, but they are a plant that likes light to germinate IME.

J. I would contact Kartuz Nursery (Michael K. or Brad Thompson or probably any of the staff) since they are the major growers in the San Diego area and should be able to fill you in with all the details. Let us know how it goes...