climbing roses for zones 4/5?
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What Zone 5 roses have you had consistent luck with in in Zone 4?
Comments (5)First, thanks Gary..I didn't realze I had a response on this because I've also been posting on the "antique roses" forum and got a bunch of responses there..I did get a bunch of roses at Sam Kedem. I guess it remains to be seen if any of them make it! Twohuskies has been responding to my posts there and we're in a very similar little microclimate I think. I'll definitely look into the rose you all have suggested. And yes Gary I agree that Sam is great. He has great info on roses and is honest about what he thinks will be hardy. Here is one of my roses that seems to come back again and again that I remember being a Zone 5 but don't remember the name. I had one possible ID on the AR forum as an Austin Rose, "The Dark Lady" I'm not sure if that's right or not..The name doesn't sound familiar to me. This rose is definitely my favorite in my garden and has come for 7 winters with only minimal protection. I've lost LOTS of others since then.. look familiar to anyone?...See MoreClimbing Roses in Zone 5 (thanks for your suggestions)
Comments (16)Wonderful photo of John Davis, Twros, and thanks for the tips about getting it to climb. Like Mad said, mine has struggled to survive and grow beyond knee height for some time now, but it hasn't hit the magic 4 years mark yet for a climber. Good to know that it appreciates feeding. In my yard, mbrad, I've found that John Cabot is the more reliable and enthusiastic climber, and it's rock solid hardy to the tips in a zone 4 pocket of my yard. For the first 3-4 years, it was mostly a once-bloomer with a few scattered blooms here and there, but now that it's mature it's starting to get some repeat flush blooms on and off in the year. I'd definitely recommend that one as the best climber of the four you list. Among the others, I agree with Mad that Cecile Brunner is a long shot to survive in zone 5 (I've never overwintered one with several tries), but if it does survive it's likely to be a shrub rather than climber. Give it a protected spot and hope for the best. Laguna will climb well and is mostly cane hardy for me, and it's a dark pink color that will highlight the other colors. All of your roses are in the pink family (Laguna & John Cabot are dark pink, the rest are light pink) so I think any combination of them would look fine. Next to John Cabot, Colette is the other most reliable climber in zone 5. It takes a while to get established and climb well - give any climber 4 years to get settled in before you judge its characteristics - but it has repeat bloom on and off throughout the summer. I think JC, Colette & Laguna will climb well, and JC is the one most likely to cover your arbor. For companion plants, I'd be very cautious about a grape vine. You'll notice that on your honeymoon (congratulations by the way) the pergola had only a grape vine on it. My experience has been that grapes don't share real estate well. My neighbors have some inherited vines along a shared fence line, and the grapes TOTALLY invade my vegetable garden and have mostly shaded out my tomatoes. Wouldn't take much, as it's only a part shade situation, but grapes don't play well with others. I'm happy to rein in the grapes and I love those neighbors, so we're discussing strategy for this year. Instead of grapes, I'd plant a clematis on each end of the pergola. Clematis bloom in the heat of summer when the roses are taking a rest, so it means extending your bloom season. There are some lovely clematis and they tend to be easy and LOVE our midwestern soils. Jackmanii is a common one that's around most places and it's a dark purple that would set off the other colors nicely. Clematis are totally easy care in our zone, and they're more of an instant gratification of something to cover the pergola (but give it a year or two to settle in still), while you're waiting for the roses to mature. Syri - my experiences with Japanese Beetles is that they'll eat whatever is convenient (like deer do), but they prefer flowers. There are other things that will eat the grapes themselves, including birds, but I haven't found that the grapes are all that interesting to the Japanese beetles if there's something else they like better (like all my roses). We'll look forward to seeing pictures, mbrad! Good job doing your homework on your roses. Cynthia...See MoreClimbing rose for zone 5 colorado
Comments (25)Sorry I got back to this thread late folks, and thanks for the complements. Flowers my jaw drops every time I see your John Cabot since mine is about 4 years old and has barely reached knee high. Sure hope it's putting down roots and contemplating world domination like yours! Mad Gallica, that's really encouraging that Captain Samuel Holland is like Felix in its bloom cycles. Mine is just 2 years old and settling in, but it didn't seem to have a problem with the zone 4 areas of the yard. If mine can look as good as yours even once a year I'd be pleased. Thorny? Yep all of them, particularly Quadra. Fragrant? Dunno, I can't tell, but I doubt it. Last week I tried sniffing those perfume samples that come in newspaper ads this time of year and I could only smell about half of them at all. As for Victorian Memory, I grew it once a couple of years ago and it might not have gotten established in the summer or died over winter for some reason. I'll have to try it again from High Country Roses. I'm interested in how William Baffin settles in for you, flowers. I had that one on my order list one year from High Country Roses, and Matt on the phone paused after I'd said it, remarking that "William Baffin is more of a lifestyle than a rose". He said that the 6' height was wildly underestimated and to make sure he had a TON of space to play. I decided to pass at the time, in the same way I love but pass on Charles de Mills. Roses are enough of a lifestyle en masse for me to allow any one rose to take too much space for itself. Cynthia...See MoreClimbing rose recommendation for zone 5
Comments (7)I agree that knowing the part of the country you're in will help us advise you. The low thorn item is the trickiest part as most of the "thornless" roses I can think of are either pinkish or white, or not hardy to our zone 5. For yellows, I've had good luck with Lunar Mist. It can die to the ground some years but in the past several years has had reasonably good surviving cane. If Teasing Georgia didn't survive for you thought anything we list might be tricky, as that one is rated to zone 4 and performs that way for me. It's possible TG would be more hardy after a year protected to grow better roots. It's a little early to endorse this yellow, but Sunshine Sally has small blooms but has so far been tip hardy over the last winter. Same with Golden Opportunity. A reliably tip hardy apricot climber is Polka, with big fat fully double blooms. It has good sized thorns but they're spaced enough that they're relatively easy to avoid. There are some options that are coral pink like Rosarium Ueterson or Lady Ashe, but to my eye they look more pink than coral. Cynthia...See Moremutts_fan
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