I'm looking to add some new ones to my collection Just started growing these this year & I'm really digging on them & Would like to trade for ones I don't have I'd prefer cuttings over seeds since I haven't had the best of luck with seeds for some reason (NOT Looking For Any Other Vines Other Than Aristolochia Sp. / Don't Have The Room) These are the 3 I currently have that I can offer in trade~ A. Trilobata / Cuttings http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/577474678CeZOQm A. Fimbriata / Seeds & Cuttings http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/577608655yZyeuj Aristolochia Sp. / Cuttings / Will Have Seeds Soon / Just Waiting for the pods to open http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/578023775RaXVai If interested LMK what you have Thanx DC evil.garden.gnome.13@gmail.com PS~ Also interested in Carnivorous Plants (Mainly Nepenthes) if anyone has any available for trade & Skunk Cabbage Is Also On My Want List Really ONLY Interested In Strange, Odd, Weird, Bizarre Types Of Plants Not Necessarily Rare, But Uncommon Stuff That I Couldn't Walk In To Any HomeDepot Or WalMart & Buy If I Wanted It Here is a link that might be useful: Pics Of Some Of My Plants

Poisondart - the tropical pipevine, A. elegans, is poisonous for Gulf Frits. Gold Rims can be raised on it, but I don't think they make it up as far as Kentucky. If you're planning on using it for a host plant for the GFs, it won't work for them. The caterpillars will die on it. Pipevines that will work in your area are the ones that are not considered tropical, like A. serpentaria, A. tomentosa, A. macrophylla, and A. clematitis. Susan

IT WILL take you and your house!!!lol,but as it is such a flimsy vine,it is easy to cut back,as long as you keep on top of it. unlike my braziliensis,which is now over my roof and to high to get to![affraid of hieghts.so it as won lol] gary culver city

Hi Sherry and Sandy, Thanks for your comments. I hesitated somewhat posting on this forum as I had read that A. gigantea (and I believe A. elegans) are toxic to some butterfly larvae. However, I assumed that there would be people with considerable experience growing Aristolochias on this forum. The nature of the toxicity is not clear to me, nor is it clear whether a hybrid would share that problem. Is it even known whether the "toxicity" is due to a poisonous substance or substances, or whether the plants are "poisonous" simply because they lack some molecule(s) necessary for the caterpillars' survival? Regardless, I assumed that on a forum like this there would be a number of people who started growing Aristolochias for the butterflies, but then fell in love with the genus for the plants themselves. I know that is true of many who grow Passifloras. I'm not familiar with the debates over the naming of A. durior and A. macrophylla. For some reason I had thought they were synonyms. I have a friend who used to be involved in vine propagation at UCBG and I'm hoping to get his thoughts as to whether the parent could have been A. gigantea. I'm sure there are cases where the flowers of a hybrid are larger than either parent, but (particularly in the absence of polyploidy) I would expect they are rare. An 8 inch flower (assuming the description is correct) is a pretty dramatic increase in size. The white flecks on the leaves are also highly suspicious. Again, my impression is that those are diagnostic of A. gigantea, and never found in A. durior/macrophylla or A. elegans. The white "flecks" are odd enough that many people think their A. gigantea is diseased the first time they notice them. My interest is in the ornamental aspect of the plant, as well as its adaptability. I've grown other Aristolochias--A. gigantea, trilobata/macroura, elegans, and fimbriata. I've offered both unrooted and rooted cuttings of A. gigantea for postage in the past, and at the moment I have rooted cuttings of A. trilobata/macroura that I will need to find homes for. What intrigues me about this particular hybrid is the possibility that it could resemble one of the tropical species in terms of large and dramatic flowers, yet have unusual hardiness. The hardiness is not an issue for me, but it would be for people living in most of the rest of the country. I would guess that there would be people interested in growing such a hybrid outside if it were possible in their climate. Passiflora incarnata is an example of a plant whose hybrids differ in their hardiness. Passiflora 'Incense' (P. incarnata x cincinnata) is one that is reasonably hardy for many people (typically given as zone 7, I think, sometimes even zone 6). Others are much less hardy. In that case the origin of the P. incarnata parent may be one factor, as strains from more Northern regions are not nearly as hardy as those from the Deep South. The bottom line is that for either P. incarnata hybrids or for Aristolochia durior x elegans, the hardiness of the hybrid can't be easily predicted. It needs to be tested. But yes, for those whose sole focus is attracting butterflies, the issue of toxicity is probably more important than hardiness. By the way, I think the Yahoo Aristolochia group has essentially died, with almost no posts in the last year or two.