Yemeni Succulent ID (take two)

15 years ago

Hello,

I posted this photo a while back but wasn't able to get a positive ID. I thought I would try again.

This plant was collected in the mountains outside of Sana'a, Yemen. I do not have any other photos showing it in flower, etc.

Thanks in advance,

Justin

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cactusjordi
15 years ago
You should try to contact either Tom McCoy or Lavranos to ID this plant. Both are very knowledgeable in Yemen succulents.

Jordi
gotme
Original Author
15 years ago
Thanks for your help. I've tried searching for both names on the forum but haven't found anything. I see that they've published a number of articles in the Cactus and Succulent Society of America journal, but again there is no contact info listed there.

Do you happen to have their e-amils?
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Hello, Thanks for all the suggestions. I am on Saudi time right now so I think our responses are a bit out of sync. In any case, if it helps any I can try to describe the plant a bit. The leaves are about the consistency, and look a bit like, those of a jade plant. They don't seem to color up in the sun like a jade, however, other than the tips, as you can almost make out in the photo. The problem with asking locals is that they will invariably use a local name (i.e., Yemeni local and not even standard Arabic probably) -- and that is if you can find someone who even knows the name. I collected this plant in the cliffs above Sana'a while I was there rock-climbing. Yes, the photo was taken in the Old City portion of Sana'a, where I lived. All of my plants were (and still are presumably) on the roof-top of my old house there. I miss all those guys. Thanks again.
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sagebrush36
15 years ago
Check the credits on the first page of the CSSA Journal, especially the one that contained articles written by them.

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joscience
15 years ago
Senecio sempervivus

Tim Harvey, who I asked about this plant, saw it in a talk during the CSSA convention this year. Much thanks to him for passing along this ID!
reiver
15 years ago
Here's a link to the beautiful bloom at Huntington.

http://www.huntington.org/BotanicalDiv/ISI2007/isi/2007-32.html#

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cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
15 years ago
#2,

As sagebrush mentions, look at the bottom of the last page of their articles - the last time I subscribed to the CSSA, contact information for the authors of the article was published below the last line of test, after the bibliography (if any).

And I thought that it was a transplanted Cotyledon. The flowers are fantastic.
gotme
Original Author
15 years ago
Great! It certainly seems like this is the correct ID. The only problem now is that no one seems to have one in stock. I would really like to have one of these as a memory of my Yemeni rooftop apartment, so if anyone comes across one please let me know.

Thanks again for the help with the ID,

Justin
amccour
15 years ago
http://www.aridlands.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=senecio&osCsid=qh752ekdeoot0i989ne5v9hvh4&x=0amp;y=0

Arid lands has some, apparently, although I'm not sure it's the right sub-species.
gotme
Original Author
15 years ago
re: amccour

Yes, I saw this, although I'm also unsure about the ssp. grantii. Elsewhere I'd seen this ssp. as originating from East Africa (Kenya, I think), rather than Yemen.

Perhaps I will try it and see.

Thanks.
joscience
14 years ago
Did you ever get one Gotme? I bought one today at the Huntington sale that I could pass along if you are interested.

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