Winter Sowing without containers? [g]
prairiemoon2 z6b MA
13 years ago
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Plastic containers for Winter sowing
Comments (2)Well, just how much snow do you get there in zone 4? It seems to me that your proposal of sowing the seed on the bare dirt and then putting the bottle over it (technically called a cloche) would only work if you have no snow on the ground. One of the nice things about winter sowing is that we can sow seeds in the middle of a blizzard. It sounds like for your idea to work you would have to wait till spring to sow, when your snow has melted. If you do that, anything that needs cold to germinate will fail. Or you could plant in late fall, before snow starts to fly, which could result in your seeds frying if you have an autumn heat wave. Plus, winter sown seedlings (honest, honest, believe me!) seldom, I might even dare to say never, suffer transplant shock. And if you sow them in paper pots or toilet paper rolls, you can plant the whole thing in the ground without disturbing the roots at all. One thing I do to avoid the problem of drying out and inconsistent watering, is I set the winter sown containers in plastic trays with holes drilled about an inch up the sides for drainage, so they get bottom water when I don't have enough time to water them every day. Hope this advice helps!...See MoreWinter Sowing versus Direct Sowing
Comments (21)Susan, Oh, okay, I don't know what I was thinking that you had started them indoors. I'm hoping that I'll get a head start on them this way. I didn't plant quite all of them yet because I wasn't sure if I was starting them too early. Now that our last frost date is about two months from now (April 15), I suppose that I could start the rest inside. My problem is that I ran out of containers and will have to go get some more. I have all of my individual one and two-gallon ones used with my swamp milkweed started outside, and the smaller individual ones have butterfly weed and tropical milkweed in them. Then I also have 3 flats (72 in a flat) with swamp milkweed in two of them started outside and butterfly weed in the other one. Then I also have butterfly weed and tropical milkweed started in cups. I probably am up to close to 300 milkweed plants here, assuming that the seeds all germinate (I put two in each container), and I'm not even done yet. lol Of course, then there's the Chelone glabra, Zizia aurea, Zizia aptera, Heraculeum maximum, Foeniculum vulgare azoricum, and Angelica atropurpurea seeds from you that I have winter sown. I started some snapdragons inside, Blazing Star Liatris, also Agastache foeniculum and Blue Fescue (I suppose I could have winter sown those last two). I'll direct sow my lupines, zinnias, cosmos, and dill. There, I think I remembered everybody. :) I want to try to locate a small spicebush around here. I wonder if there'd be any harm in digging one out and relocating it here at the edge of our yard next to the woods? A sassafras tree would be nice too. Of course, I'm thinking about other plants for next year...I'd even plant a paw paw tree if I knew that I could get ZST up here, but my Butterflies Through Binoculars book shows their range ending around the southern border of PA. There are so many different kinds of butterflies that I'd like to attract here, but I don't think I want to dig up our whole backyard. :) It's snowing a lot here right now. Schools let out at noon today and have already cancelled for tomorrow. I suppose the weather will soon clear up out your way. Come on spring! Cathy...See MoreWinter sowing containers
Comments (14)I have used many types of containers. Currently my favorites are the 2 LTR bottles (cut in a similar way as described by kcqrna) and assorted sizes of plastic cups. They are easy to use, AND re-use - they hold up for years. One of the problems with milk jugs is that the plastic gets brittle after a season or two or the container gets all cut up trying to remove the seedlings. I am not into collecting, cleaning, and cutting new containers every year. I used to use a lot of the large clear plastic salad boxes that held the mesclun mix, and still use a couple. However I know use almost all of those for raising butterflies. They make a great rearing container for butterfly caterpillars....See MoreEncouraging blooms on young natives ... indoor sow or winter sow?
Comments (13)Not trying to get into the wintersow vs. not wintersow debate here but....... The only time it makes sense to wintersow is when you are sowing seeds needing cold stratification and I know some of the ones you listed do not need it. I sowed the Asceplsis incarnata in early August and plan to put them in the ground under mulch all winter. I am winter sowing some native shrub seeds needing a couple months of cold strat. in pots outdoors and three others that are perennials that specifically need it. There are no hard fast rules to this. To each his own. I rather enjoy sowing indoors in winter and have had very good results and it gives me an uplift in winter to do that. I have had good head starts on healthy plants this way and have sowed many SW shrubs, perennials, ornamental grasses, cactus, etc. I always have something indoors in winter I am sowing. I usually start them in October or November in a large sunny S. exposure window and grow them very cool in the coldest dark months sort of in a wait pattern, then let them get warm again in late Feb when the sun comes stronger. I use lights sometimes if necessary but usually they just sit there in the cold. I am not a wintersower to the degree popularized to a hobby level of lots of containers with holes, lids etc craze with every seed I get being done that way. I just use regular pots in the shade under the carport for the seeds specifically needing a cold period. For penstemons its good, they come up when its still very cold. Some seeds needing cold I direct sow. Sometimes I experiment and try all different ways to see what does best with a backup supply to resow in spring. Look up your different varieties and see what they need and go from there. I have sowed seeds as early as October and had established plugs to put into the ground come spring. Other times I put the late summer sown seedlings in the ground in late fall and cover them with leaf mulch and had good well rooted starts that way in spring. Look at nature, she does that all the time with seeds that have fallen. Mostly, make it fun for yourself and do what you want. Save extra seeds for insurance, or try multiple ways and experiment. Do a test in a damp paper towel with a few seeds to see if they sprout in a few days. Often that will tell you want you need to know....See Morecountrycarolyn
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