Have read it a few times,too. I have a feeling my response would be the same as yours, sooo Ditto your post for me, Mike! Gloria

Sorry Gloia! I posted anyway - might get into trouble over it. But life is such!

Mike

Why are you sorry? G.

Gloria

Not sure really! lol! Felt a little guilty after posting my comments on the other thread I guess! :) I just don't understand some people at times. It just bothers me to see how some people treat others. Isn't gardening & trading with others suppose to be FUN??

Mike

I think they are a bunch of hateful guts!!

That is totaly not nice,they are so wrong for that,I applaude you Mike.
Bonnie

Off to the chicken coop - where I can hear my OWN hens cackle! Seriously - I don't have chickens, but!!

Too funny. LOL

I can here them now. The only stupid question is the one not asked.

Sorry Jim - that's just what it reminded me of! :) You know? I realize there are guidelines for trading, sase's, etc. But - I just didn't like the curt replies they made to one another about new people on the forum. We were ALL new at one time! :) I've been here since 2004 & still consider myself as a newbie - as I'm learning new things every day! And to meet the great people here on the forum - priceless! Sounds like a Mastercard commercial - huh? lol! Maybe I 'read' too much into their posts - either way, a nerve was hit!

Mike

I guess I'm going to have to be the one that disagrees. I think Sue is right and these solicitations for free seeds and plants is getting totally out of hand. I don't agree with the bare root and state lines stuff but can understand why it was mentioned. I do quite a bit of trading, seeds and plants and you have no idea of the number of emails that I get from people asking for stuff, not even things that I've posted. Some of them get really nasty if I say no and others expect me not only to send them plants and/or seeds but also think that I should pay the postage. It's different within the specific plant forums and I think this mainly applies to the general seed and plant exchange forums.
Karyn

Mike, don't feel guilty or sorry..You did good!... The poster and her followers (the bumpers) sound like a childish grade school click!

Karyn

You're an awesome trader & loved to death by myself & many others! :) No doubt about that! I mainly had a 'thing' concerning their curt replies to one another. I just felt it was unprofessional & bluntly - somewhat rude to the new folks! They could have been a tad bit more tactful. And it just burns me to no end when someone is nasty to a forum member (new or old) on a public forum. Can't help myself - always looking out for the 'little guy' I guess! :) Anyway - time to move on - as there are more important things to worry about - brugs, brugs, and more brugs!! :)

Mike

LOL karen!!..I am a slow typer..You must have posted right before me.

I hope you know I wasn't talking about YOU in anyway!

Don't worry I didn't think you were talking about me. I have you all fooled into thinking that I'm really a nice person. lol I think that you need to read a lot more about the problem of the newbies that post only wanting stuff and offering nothing in return, especially posts from Sue who is probably one of the most helpful people I've met on GW. Many of these "newbies" aren't new at all but are just the same person who continues to make up new UN's and email address asking for stuff. As for offers for postage or mentioning money that really is in the GW rules as a no no but nobody pays attention. I've posted loads of offers for plants and seeds for postage. Take a look at the "discussions" part of the plant and seed exchange to get a better feeling of why some of the old timers sound so harsh. I do think they came off sounding nasty and they really aren't.
Karyn

Right on Mike! Is Sue an employee of GW; I never saw that post introducing her? I see she's always posting letting people know 'how to add' their email address, etc., and just assumed she was a poster like us helping others. Anyway, when people I don't know email me asking for a plant I haven't listed or I said I only had one to share, I just delete that email.

I can see where something like this is needed for the scammers because there are those out there. But it does make a timid newbie more timid. It is more scolding than nuturing to someone that doesn't know better and may be trying something new.

Just my thoughts,
Mary

Hmmmmmmm. . . .no comment as I have been trying to build a library of brugs that I do have to trade next round. . .

But naaaaaaasty nasty mean. . .no reason to be mean. I get it, but boy - I'd certainly not ask for anything now after reading that.

But thank goodness there are forums where you can get to know the people first - and then trade.

But boy - that would cut back on those looking to try stuff and join the addiction.

I have been to the hen house a bunch of times when I was a kid. OMG that saying is a trip down memory lane.

I still do not see how people make money on plants.

Well, I have to say that I feel the rules of the exchange forum should be obeyed. Even if that woman doesn't work for GW, maybe she was getting fed up with people NOT obeying the rules, and/or not reading them at all. Maybe she got sick of getting so many mooching emails from strangers. There are moochers everywhere who will take advantage, and are not shy. It can get to a point where it is downright rude and disrespectful. I agree you should be able to post if you are looking for something, but should have something to trade in exchange. If a postage paid offer is up, it is that person's right to do that if all they are asking is postage so be it. That's how they want to do it, and I see it as fair. BUT if they choose to say no to someone, say because they don't know them and don't know if they can be trusted to pay, I also think that is their right.
On the other hand I don't think they should be rude to newbies just because they are newbies. Good way to chase people off the forums. Then where would we be? Can you imagine no new people to enable? No new people to talk to? This just goes to show that the brug forum is by far the best and friendliest forum to be. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we are like family here, & I love it!
I have never been asked by anyone for anything like others have, and honestly I have a hard time even asking if I can have something that is being offered up for postage when we post here. I just feel like I am being greedy and rude. I usually have to go back & look at the post 3 or 4 times before I get the nerve to ask if I can have one of whatever it is, lol. Just not how I was raised, but I know noone is going to be pyschic and know what I want, or may be looking for. And you can bet your butts I will be offering up stuff and soon as I have some to offer! I can't wait to share with you all. I feel like I can't even repay those of you who have shared with me, no matter what or how much I send you. You all have been so nice & thoughtful..OK by now you all know how I can go on & on, so I'll shutup now, lol. I think you get the point. But with all that yapping..I don't even know if I actually got my original thoughts out there.

Mike, I can understand how you looked at that and it got you ticked off. Happens to me all the time, lol. That's what hard about this..there's no tone, you don't know exactly how people mean things sometimes. Could be meant a few dif ways. Maybe they are just sheep over there, and just wanted to seem like they agreed with her, who knows. I am glad you posted your thoughts though. Maybe they didn't realize how it was being taken?

As for this 'rule';
* All exchanges are restricted to users from a particular country, region or state. If it isn't indicated otherwise, the exchange is restricted to residents of the U.S. To find an exchange for your location, check the the exchange index*

OK I can agree with the country part, but region & state??? What kinda crap is that?

Just my thoughts on this.

Daniella

Back when GW was very strict about the "No Begging Policy" you couldn't ask for stuff for free.. If someone offered that was fine.. I also recieve alot E~ from total strangers wanting stuff.. I have no problem deleting them or just saying No..
I do understand the point being made..BUT What Right does one person have to dictate "The Rules" for everyone.. Is she GW???I think this has been handled in a rude and unprofessional manner and I find it offensive. Even tho I don't diasgree with the point being made..
Kylie

Local exchanges? I looked at that & there are no local exchanges near me. Even region-wise, there aren't very many. My 2 closest brug friends are 1 1/2 hours away (in opposite directions). The next closest would be Karyn, & Theresa & (2 1/2 or 3 hours, again in opposite directions) & Edna is about 5 or more hours away. I wish I had friends who lived close enough to come & play in the dirt with me once in a while, I'll drive hours for a friendly face & some plant conversation. (grin)

Linda