J.L. Hudson has seeds for $2.00. Are you wanting seeds or plants. Here are a couple of other sources, but you need to check Garden Watchdog because I've never heard of them.

https://home.frognet.net/~complants/secure/cart/an-ar.htm
http://www.wildlanders.com/members/aws/seedlist2.asp

Susan

Here is a link that might be useful: Dogbane aka Indian Hemp

Last fall while looking for info on dogbane I found only one reference to it that related to butterflys. Today in a pamphlet from The National Audubon Society they say that, while 30 species were observed nectaring on common milkweed, 38 species were on the dogbane.
Darn, sure wish I had saved seeds.

Thanks, Susan and Beth! I'll let you know how it goes. Now I'm excited about the plant as a nectar source, too!

Carol, this is the Dogbane that we have locally. It is commonly found in some of the wetter ditches in our area. When it is in bloom in late May and early June, it is always full of butterflies nectaring.

I dug up some starts last spring. Hopefully, mine will come back from the roots.

Good luck finding some. :)

Here is a link that might be useful: Dogbane

I see it has taproots, Linda, and I hope you're successful with your transplants. The blooms do look similar to milkweed, don't they?

Susan

Great link, Linda! Susan, yeah, it does look a lot like Milkweed. In fact some botanists consider the Milkweeds to be a part of the Dogbane Family. I wonder if the poisonous sap is similar. I pulled this off an academic site. "The dogbane family (is in) the order Gentianales, subclass Asteridae, class Magnoliopsida. The APG botanical system clumps members of the ASCLEPIADACEAE into this family." Tonight, if you have trouble falling asleep, you can read this over and over:-)

Yes, I noticed in my research that the apocynaceae and asclepiadaceae families, while separate now, used to be one and the same - asclepiadaceae. But, the dogbanes were then placed into their own separate family. They do have the similar milky sap that milkweeds do. Wonder if it contains the same cardiac glycosides as milkweed? There are in the same GROUP - dicots - but that doesn't really say much.

There have been a ton of changes this year in the taxonomy of many plants. Every time I think I have one down, it changes.

Susan

I didn't mean the formal definition of "group". YouÂre right, that would be much too broad. Botanists who consider Milkweed and Dogbane to be separate families, place them both in Order Gentianales. The botanists who lump Milkweeds into the Dogbane Family are the Angiosperm Phylogeny Group(APG).(They agree that Dogbane is in the Order Gentianales, as well.) This is all new to me! Did you mean the APG changed their minds this year? And to get even more technical, yes, there are at least two kinds of cardiac glycosides in Apocynum cannabinum. Okay, back outside to get muddy again.

Yes, the superorder, I agree. But, the subclass (gentianales) is synonymous with apocynaceae according to APG. Asclepias is in the subclass of gentianales, along with a lot of other genera, including dogbane, and mucho species under that umbrella. All of which makes this crystal clear, right? LOL!

Consequently, asclepiadoideae being a "former" family in itself, is now classified as a "subfamily" under apocynaceae. So, I guess that makes them just "related" since asclepias is also a subfamily of apocynaceae.

We can just choose to remain confused.

Susan

Susan,I can't find the taxonomic designations you're describing. I'm e-mailing you a side-bar discussion:-)
Carol

Carol I went out to the pasture and located a few pods of dogbane that still have seeds.
If you still need some, let me know.
Beth B

Beth, Wowie Zowie, Yes! I would love to try to get it growing here. Once I get it going, can you give me tips on how to know when the seed pods are ready to collect? Most seed pods need to be dry and brown first, but there are a few kinds that can be collected with a little green still on the pod. Thank you, thank you!!
Carol