Ok, no one will probably bite, but it is worth a shot. A few years ago I got a hold of some black bat flower seeds. I know, I know it takes forever for these buggers to do anything, yet my efforts & patience & techniques have yielded nothing at all. I tried several times over using different methods, until I finally gave up with two seeds left. Shortly afterwards, the gardening gods bestowed luck upon me, & I found some seedlings being grown in a nursery. All I am asking is ONE cactus cutting (or if you have something else from my list) for two black bat flower seeds.