No list that I know of, treehaus. You just have to figure it out as you go along. Broms seem to fall into 3 main categories: a) self-pollinators, in which all of the flowers will automatically pollinate themselves without outside help, and may even reject any attempts to pollinate with anything else; b) self-infertile types that will only accept outside pollen; and c) somewhere in between, i.e. capable of selfing if pollinated but don't do it every time, and will accept (and may prefer) outside pollen. I don't know what the breakdown of these types is, but my general experience has been that maybe 10-20% of Neos fall into the first category, but most of them fall into the second category. I really don't think there are all that many that will self easily but only if pollinated. I come across those more often in other genera, like Aechmeas and Vrieseas. This is not based on any hard scientific evidence, mind you, just observation of the results of my pollination efforts, as well as selfed or wild-pollinated seeds I've grown out. If most Neos were self-compatible I'd be seeing a lot more seedlings that looked like F2s. I do emasculate the flowers, but not beforehand, so I'd expect a little bit of its own pollen to get onto the stigma most of the time, and I'm just not seeing it showing up in the results that often. It's not really correct to say that a particular species is self-infertile, though, just that an individual plant is. In nature you often have many variants of the same species growing in close proximity, and they are compatible pollinators because they are not all the same clone. The problem comes when somebody collects only one specimen and propagates that, so then all individuals in cultivation are genetically identical. Y'know... right off the top of my head I can't think of any Neo species that is a self-pollinator, except for Neo. stolonifera, which is in that pendula-eleutheropetala subgroup (which in my opinion should really be a separate genus). If anyone can think of another one, or has been successful self-pollinating a species, holler out! I can think of plenty of Aechmeas and other genera, and plenty of hybrids that are, but not true Neo SPECIES. Hmmm.......

You're right, Bob, Norman is Hannibal crossed back to Tiger. I was thinking it was an F2 of Hannibal, so that would explain the larger size. Well, let's see..... I could buy one or I could just cross the two myself next time they bloom. You guys probably thought I was joking when I said I do my own hybrids because I'm cheap. No joke, LOL Actually, I think we'll be seeing a lot of Hannibal and Tiger hybrids coming out, and a lot of them are going to start looking very similar. When something that good and that different comes along nobody can resist working with it. I picked this one up from my local neighborhood hybridizer, ostensibly HL x (Big Red x Purple Paint). Shows a lot of HL/Tiger characteristics and not much from the other side so far: Speaking of Tiger crosses, I also took this pic-- feast your eyes: No, I don't own this plant; no, it wasn't available but it didn't come from here so it must be out there somewhere; and no, I don't remember what the cross was but it's not a variegated HL.

Hi PrincessKaitlyn, My guess is that those brown marks could be cold damage, considering you live in N.S.W. and we had such a cold winter this year. Yours have fared much better than mine - I also live in N.S.W., north of Lismore (near Nimbin). The new inner leaves are unmarked, suggesting they are now growing healthily in the warmer weather. See how those marks are all at a particular growth area, around the plant, now growing out? Probably happened in mid to late July when the temperature reached record-breaking lows. You seem to be doing everything right - I don't think you are killing them! Sun 'til 11am sounds ideal - and your Neo. kautskyi could take even more, and will turn more golden yellow, with the red patterns becoming more prominent. Neo. Gee Whiz also colours best in good strong light. However, if you don't want to be a slave to your broms, then watering 3 times per week is probably unnecessary. Watering once (or twice in hot, dry weather) per week should be adequate. Hope this helps. Cheers, Kerry

Hi Kerry, thank you, I am with you even if you cannot see me, following this forum and learning a lot. Your experience confirms other data I have, I think N. cruenta, compacta, chlorosticta and spectabilis will be the most appropriate. From another source I also have these as quite cold hardy: N. Fosperior,macwilliamsii, olens, concentrica, if you grow them, what was their behaviour? Hi Nev, thank you for your mail, this document is still on the FCBS site, not a PDF but the same, there is even another one. See the link below, that page contains the two links considering the cold hardiness in thei title. I use these always as the first reference, unfortunately as far as the neos are considered, only one is included in the coldest category. Funny, the N. kautkyi is in the D26-28F category on FCBS, for Kerry it did well, for me it is undamaged at 28F. Just Einmal ist keinmal :-) Tomas Here is a link that might be useful: cold sensitivity on FCBS