So the number would have been sixteen. Remember that any roses that are replacing the dead do not count. I believe there there is also a rule that roses you wanted for years are counted on the date you wanted it, that should get the number down a little.

Looks like a nice list I checked out several of the same roses.

Lance

Beth I think that is exciting and very cool. Good for you. It was excellent to read on the Vintage newsletter how they were so flooded with orders it gave them hope of ending the year in the black.

Aside from what I already ordered I would absolutely love to have Pinocchio from them. It would have to be grown as a custom root. I haven't seen it anyplace but from Vintage and only if they create one.

You know I haven't seen a photo of your garden for a while but do you intend to grow these as in the ground or in pots? I assume with you having so very many great roses a lot of them are potted.

Thanks.

Kate

Lance sounds just like an enabler to me.
Beth, go for it. You only live once. Remember what I said, you are an inspiration. It's so early in the season to be enabling too.

Carla

I ordered Tantarra yesterday as soon as they uploaded the new list. Also got;
Golden State
New Yorker
Shades of Autumn
Audie Murphy
Cuba
Better Times
Black Velvet

Beth - I have Song of Paris as VID from the UCD program, and it really has done well. The big knock on it when I researched was that it was vrey winter tender, but it has done really well even though that would not be an issue with you.

Here's why YOU must buy more roses. One of the roses you list from Vintage is Green Dynasty. The name intrigued me so I looked it up on HMF. Result? It wasn't there. Just think of buying roses as a service you do for the rest of us who want to see something unique and different.

Oh maaaan! Mike... I was going to order BLACK VELVET but I forgot. Bummer. Ya know, I was buzzin' pretty good when I placed that order last night. I fell in the yard a couple days ago early in the morning in the dark and rain (running out there to turn the sprinklers off). My hip was hurting after working all day yesterday. I ran out of pain killers, so made myself a big fat gin & tonic, and sat down to look thru Vintage's list. That's why I ended up with 16 roses. LOL

Lance, you're right... MOST of these don't count! LOL But then, the ones on order from Regan's, Pickering, Hortico, Wisconsin Roses, etc... those DO! Yikes!

Kate, I've had PINOCCHIO for many yrs, and to be honest, it's not really a very good rose. Of course, mine was a cheapie bagged bareroot, so that could be why. But it doesn't really repeat all that great, and has stayed around 2ft tall. When it does bloom, the blooms are quite lovely tho. Hope you can find it somewhere.
Oh, and these roses I will pot up for now. I don't have any luck at all with planting the new own-roots directly in the ground. They either die or sit there for yrs and do nothing.

LOL Carla! I'm an inspiration? I should be an example of what NOT to do!! Too many roses.... NO time!! (Insanity)

So, Mike, you will love SHADES OF AUTUMN. That's a really beautiful rose. It blows a little fast, but the colors it shows are wonderful. And I've been waiting for TANTARRA to show up on the list! I lost mine last yr. I just hope I managed to snag one. That was one of the roses they said they only had a few of, as they were extras from custom orders. Hopefully we'll both get one!

Oops! I missed your post Maryl! Hey... I had that GREEN DYNASTY many many yrs ago, that's why I ordered it. It was a rose offered by a mail order company that was actually more of a gourmet kitchen gadget supplier. It was called Colonial Garden Kitchens I believe. They also offered a few gardening items, and every spring they offered a handful of unusual roses. They had a striped one that ended up being a once-blooming climbing-type rose that I gave to my mom. It died. Then there was the lovely lavender rose that I still have that no one seems to know anything about called BLUE WEDGEWOOD. GREEN DYNASTY was a green rose from that collection. I got them all, and I can't remember if GD ever bloomed or not, but it died pretty quickly. They never offered the roses after that last order I had gotten. Seems like they also had a dark blackish red one with some odd name. These were all roses that came from a supplier in Pennsylvania. I believe the nursery name was Lakeland or had the name Lakeland in it.

Beth; I hope that if Green Dynasty blooms you will let us know how it is. I seldom go to the gallery anymore because my old clunky dial up computer can't handle more then a couple/three pictures and usually everyone wants to post a bunch of them. So if GD blooms and you remember I'd love to know how green it turns out.

well i had to order 16 also because it optimizes the shipping costs, that's my excuse. I go for the free bands however since i got $25.00 off instead of just $16.00.

Maryl, I sure will post pics! (providing I actually managed to snag one)

Len, I would've gone for the free ones too, but ya just have to pick out waaay too many alternate choices. I'd rather not end up with a bunch of them. If they run out of the ones I want, then I don't get as many plants as I originally ordered. But that's ok. So, what 16 did you order?

OK -- you guys got me good. I'm not telling how many I ordered! GRIN . . . Let's just leave it at "too many."

Among them are that Green Dynasty, Rumba, Peppermint Twist, Tantarra, Laughter Lines, Summer Rainbow and Cineraria (which I saw at a rose show recently and fell in love with).

So Mike -- how'd you manage to miss the only Christensen rose that you don't already have from there? See, Peppermint Twist.

And Beth -- I'm with you -- rather not have the alternates, and every time I've done that deal, I lose the very plant that caused me to place the order in the first place. So this time, I just chose the ARS 10% discount (no alternates required).

Thanks jillions guys,

Kathy

Beth, i have had very few substitutions that way, but i did notice they go by alphabetical order when they sub or maybe it's just me, it would be nicer if we could prioritize the substitutions. Maybe they changed it this time or else it was cooincidence my alternates were listed alphabetically.Anyway i usually have orders of one or two classes, whatever it seems i don't have enough of and try to balance out, but this time it is a little eclectic, or else the foetida/scotch rose run with a couple gallicas and an alba and a polyantha.lol!
(2) harison salmon (2) the bishop (2) r. foetida periana
wildenfels gelb
single cream
hippolyte
golden chersonese
r. hugonis flore plena
r. primula
alba foliacea
paquerette
soleil d'or
le reve

I'm batching a big Vintage order for delivery in the spring. Went nuts with Pernetianas this time, with a few others thrown in for good measure.

Souv. de. Mme. Boulet
Angele Pernet
Chateau de Clos Vougeot
Cuba
Etoile de Feu
Mme. Caroline Testout
Mme. Edouard Herriot
Mme. Nicolas Aussel
Mrs. Arthur Robert Waddell
Soleil d'Or
Souvenir de Claudius Pernet
Break o ' Day
Shades of Autumn
Mme. Dore
Monsieur Cordeau
Commandant Beaurepaire
Chateau de Clos Vougeot
Rosa moschata f.Temple Musk
Legacy of Frank Dorroh
Perla Rosa
Miss Atwood
Sissinghurst Castle
Phil Edinger's Noisette

The earlier roses in this order are:
Aennchen von Tharau
Caecilie Scharsach
Rottkäppchen
âÂÂHoag House CreamâÂÂ
Paeonia
Radiance, Climbing

I almost dread Dec 1, when the last of this year's roses are uploaded to the Vintage web site. It should take that long for my credit card to cool down. Having these delivered in the spring gives me time to get the last of the pot-prison roses into the ground this fall, and allows preparation of the new garden before the roses actually arrive ... she says, optimistically. :)

Connie

Kathy - Because the reason they have these is that they custom rooted it for me. It'll be here in the spring with my other orders.

My most recent Vintage order is being shipped today and I am going to do yet another......One thing that encouraged me is that a friend and I went to the wonderful Naconiche Gardens in a town near me.....they have the most marvelous display gardens and every unusual plant you could imagine. It was a paradise - the people were knowledgable, friendly - and the display gardens you could walk around in and drool over for hours. Well......we drove up and the signs were taken down, the nursery closed, the stock sold and the beautiful display gardens neglected. I wanted to cry. I went to another local nursery that I like and found out they closed 2 months ago [2 hurricanes and a couple of horse shows kept me from going]. Everything went for half price. Another nursery closed in the same town. Vintage Gardens is a pearl without price. I cant imagine what rose lovers would do without this nursery. I am spending my rose money with them, building a garden just for Vintage bands. I am so happy to hear others are buying from them, hopefully it will be enough to keep them open. Who knows what will happen to the economy, but I dont know of another nursery that offers what Vintage does. Thanks to all who have stepped up to the plate and ordered.
Judith

Beth that's good to know on Pinocchio. I would still like to try growing it in a pot but maybe for the money that's not the best bet. Thanks for your input.

Kate