Ridiculously Healthy Roses here in zone 4
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A Zone 4b Rose Garden, in pictures.....
Comments (47)I came on here tonight and was delighted to see my old post had been resurrected. THANK YOU to those of you who were kind enough to respond ....I appreciate all of your words of encouragement! You guys are so sweet and your support of my endeavors, both gardening-related and personal, makes me smile....thanks. I wanted to answer your question about the red lily beetles, yorkrose..... Yes, I do grow the true lilies (as well as a few daylilies).... hundreds & hundreds of them! The Asiatics, Orientals, Orienpets, etc. And yes, those pesky horrible red lily beetles are a plague here too. I find it unbelievable that they start attacking the lily shoots just as they are emerging from the soil in the spring. I was told that not much kills them, but I have had fairly good success in keeping them away with Sevin dust, so long as I keep at it. If it rains or I forget to keep up with the ritual of dusting, then they come right back. They will strip entire lily canes of leaves and destroy the blooms if you don't keep up....(but since you asked, you must already be familiar with that nightmarish scene). They are right up there with Japanese Beetles (on my roses) in how much damage they can do and how disgusting they are. And that nasty, sticky black sludge they leave behind with the eggs in it....YUK. organic.... I spend A LOT of time in my yard, more than most people would be willing to spend. When I had a regular job I couldn't devote as much time as I wanted (and needed)to tend to my many gardens. But now that I am home with my mom, I am able to spend more time in my gardens. Mom enjoys sitting outside and watching the goings on, so in between caring for her and the never-ending housework (I still have a teenager & grown daughter living at home too) I never seem to stop moving. I am lucky that my husband is strong and can usually be persuaded to help me with the heaviest of chores, although I am a tough chic and am proud that I can do just about everything myself...! My life seems to revolve around my family, my pets, and my gardening...and thats the way I like it! I just wish spring would come quicker up here in zone 4 so I could start digging! But its getting closer..... Celeste A few of the lilies I grow (I have planted over 400 bulbs over the years!)........See MoreZone 4, English Roses In Early Summer
Comments (11)Ratdogheads, not much repeat on The Pilgrim here, but that is because it is almost too tender to survive in this climate and struggles to come back from the ground each spring. I grow it because the blooms are one of my favorites and even a few for a several weeks a year are worth it to me. Cynthia, The Yeoman, lives in a pot and is kept indoors in my unheated storage room. Temperatures there seldom go below -10C (17 F). So it hasn't really experienced zone 4 temperatures since I got it. It has taken 4 years to really get going, but I am loving it this summer. It is a wee blooming machine now it has developed a good root system. Seems to like growing in a pot too. Geoff Hamilton this morning. This rose is gorgeous and fragrant, now four years old. He hasn't re-bloomed well in the past, but this year doesn't want to stop. I have finally learned patience with roses in a cold zone. Many take four or more years to grow a good root system and really get going. Short growing season and a need to come back from a very servere die back every year means they need lots of time to establish roots before I judge them. Note: You can click on the smaller format images to enlarge them. My Austin Reds are all just beginning to bloom. This one is Darcy BusselHere they all are in their pot condo, I have The Squire, Darcy B, Munstead Wood and a Barden Rose, Siren's Keep, all in pots in a corner where they get some afternoon shade. But it has been hot and humid here for the past week and I notice the flowers are much smaller than normal. Likely heat stress particularly to the roots as the pots heat up. We need to water them at least once a day. This is the Squire, an oldie, but a goodie Finally a bloom of Wenlock, another oldie, but very strong Damask rose fragrance and good repeat on a vigorous health plant. Cheers, Rick...See MoreMn Zone 4 Roses (2015)
Comments (62)Kelly: Khalid posted fantastic pics of WM's leaves and wicked thorn in HMF. A person in CA stated that WM has vicious thorns. Leaves are semi-glossy and dark-green. Own-root roses tend to have paler leaves than grafted, since own-roots don't secret much acid when young .. but in later years roots will get bigger & woodier, and leaves become darker green. When I bought 4 own-root roses from RU early May, all of them are pale, esp. own-root Lady of Shalott. Now they are darker green. The 10 roses I received this week June 22 are all pale leaves, from pots leaching out nutrients, esp. nitrogen and sulfur. That's why I put gypsum in my pots .. gypsum has 17% sulfur which helps with darker green leaves for wimpy own-roots....See Moredame de coeur cold hardy?
Comments (2)Kelly - I noted on the antique site that Dame de Coeur failed to overwinter last year in an average zone 5 winter. I'm trying again in a more protected spot this year, but I suspect it's marginally hardy in zone 5 and a long shot for you. A much better shorter double red for zone 4 would be LavaGlut. It has small flowers but is pretty indestructible and around 3' tall. Surprisingly Preference has been a good and hardy true red rose for me in my zone 4 pocket, and it's mostly double and larger at 4-5'. Hope For Humanity is a nice double darkish red in a zone 4 pocket for me too and it has huge luscious blooms. Cynthia...See Moreliane_z4_canada
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