David Austin Roses - Own Root or Grafted?
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Austin Roses--own root or grafted -- Help!
Comments (5)REdsox, you said that your soil pH is 7.7. That is alkaline. Sandman's soil pH is between 5 and 6 that is way acidic. Consequently Dr. Huey is not the best root stock for him; he is much better off with multiflora root stock. Another point: so far nobody reported virused Austins having originated from Pickering. But we could read that several RMV infected plants came from Austin, Texas (due to the Dr.Huey rootstock). So here we have an additional reason to avoid D. Huey as rootstock if one can....See MoreA Shout out to Florida Rose Gardeners
Comments (38)I second and third Louis Philippe... It by far is the best and most carefree bloomer ever! I have four of them, and they are all covered right now! But my Show stopper is...a Fortuiana bush I saved from the old Giles nursery that the bulldozers had plowed down when they sold their business... It is 6 feet wide, and spreads at least 12 feet up and over my pergula...In March it is to die for!!!!! So if anyone needs cutting for grafting...please let me know...you are welcome and I have plenty to spare.... You can see it in bloom on my blog "the roosting Hen" It's the main picture....It only blooms once a year...but well worth it...and never gets black spot.....and naturally doesn't get affected by nematodes...hehehehehe.... My other own root OGR are doing really well too...I'll have to find there names...A few other hybrids are Ok...but just not show stoppers...and only thriving ones are grated on Fort...I really need to learn how to do that!!!!! janine...See MoreDAs- Bare Root or One Gallon?
Comments (20)Michaela, Chamblees often puts multiple cuttings per pot, especially for roses that have been out for a while. All of the newer Kordes roses that arrived perhaps 2 months ago, had single rooted cuttings in them. This makes sense to me, as when they get a new rose to propagate, they probably are limited in the amount of stem material that they can take from the 'mother' plants. Later, when they have larger 'mother' plants, or perhaps when they are growing more 'mother' plants, stem material is not as limiting and they can 'afford' to put more than one cutting per pot. I think that the advantage of putting more stem cuttings in a pot is that the pot looks 'fuller' at an earlier point in time and therefore can be sold sooner. When I began receiving plants with multiple cuttings, I asked the folks at Chamblees if I could divide the plants in the pots to make several plants, and they responded that I could. So I did. I do remember getting a one gallon pot of Ambridge Rose that had 5 rooted cuttings. I divided them and now have 5 full size plants. They may have put in a larger number of these, as Ambridge is a shorter plant and the rooted cuttings might not grow as quickly as those taken from varieties that grow into taller plants. I got 2 plants each from a number of climbing roses that are now covering several arbors: one on each side: Lamarque, Spirit of Freedom, Crepuscule, Cl. Souv. de Malmaison, and Clothilde Soupert. I got 2 specimens of Mermaid, and now have 2 enormous plants that have climbed over 20 feet up a trellis that I suspended from hooks on the fascia boards. That's a lot of rose for $8.95! When I lived in the Houston, TX area, I noticed that many plants in the nurseries had more than one plant in the plant pots. The most extreme case was a lemon tree in a 5 gallon pot, that actually had 2 trees in it, planted very close together. I was not brave enough to try to separate them. Perhaps they teach this practice in plant propagation classes at Texas A&M or in other schools. For those confused about the cost of shipping roses:from Chambless, please try the following. Put a a single roses in your 'basket' on the Chamblee website, then begin the checkout process. Put in your address, email address etc., Advance it to the screen where the shipping cost is displayed and write down the quoted price. Then go back a few screens and add another rose to your 'basket' and advance to the screen where the shipping cost is displayed and write down the shipping cost for 2 roses. When you do this, you can compute the price of shipping for each rose if you order 1 or 4 or 10 or whatever number you want to consider. When I did this a while back, I found a 'sweet spot' at around 12 roses, where that cost of shipping for each rose in a group of 12, was around $4.50 at that time. If I added a 13th rose, the cost per plant went up. Shipping cost continue to get higher. To ship a single rose to my part of CA, is now nearly $25, but if you order 10, the total cost of shipping is $55.52, or only $5.56 per rose. If you can't find enough roses that you want or can afford to get the cost per rose down, perhaps you can find a friend to share an order with. (Caveat: the amount of shipping that is quoted on this online order blank, is approximate-it could be slightly higher or lower) John...See MoreBeginner: Do cuttings from grafted roses (David Austin) do well?
Comments (7)Sebwin, Part of the difference between how well a grafted rose does as compared to an own root rose of the same variety, depends on your growing zone. In colder zones the extra boost of vigor and winter survivability a good rootstock gives the top graft bestows many grafted roses an edge. This is seen very dramatically with miniature roses, which are not usually available commercially as grafted bushes. Almost all miniature roses are sold own root, but when grafted they grow unbelievably vigorously, considerably larger, and with far more abundant flowers than own root minis produce. There are plenty of roses that grow very well own root in northern climes, but my experience has taught me, when grafted, a rose will do better up north than an own root. I have no experience growing roses in warm zones, but I believe the own roots do very well there, and when grafted may turn into monster roses. Moses...See Morestlgal
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