Pruning: Teas - when to remove canes to the base.
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When and How to tip (prune) new Canes on Blackberries
Comments (12)I planted a number of the aforementioned varieties this springand all are growing rather well, especially the Triple Crown and Natchez. As a trailing variety the Triple Crown is being trained on a 6 ft. 2 wire trellis. The Natchez will later be on a 3-4 ft trellis but presently is tied on a single 5 ft. stake. I found on a couple sites that the Natchez needs tipping at ~4ft and the laterals dormant pruned to 18 to 24 in. I have done the tipping but now have laterals, some more than 4ft, and they are producing other sets of laterals. I would appreciate suggestions re. how to treat all this new growth -- do I need to pinch the laterals/sub-laterals or just let them grow and wait for the dormant pruning?...See MorePruning of Immature Tea Roses
Comments (4)Rosefolly, that is the BEST photographed and explained example I have seen of pruning, particularly "true" teas. Any others you can suggest? I am truly dumbfounded by verbal directions and really need visual guidance. However, most of the photos I find are blurry or not close enough to be able to see what's going on. Thanks for sharing this, I bookmarked it. Susan...See More(Not) pruning Teas; size of blooms
Comments (22)I always enjoy your posts and this one especially hit home with me! I grow many teas and have had them unpruned and in the ground for nearly 10 years. I live in Northern Ca and they are wonderful. My Mons. Tillier was huge over 5 ft tall. I was starting to worry about its' tallness but with the wonderful rains this year after years of drought, it was spectacular! Then it started to droop at the canes and became just about 4 feet still with wonderful blooms but the center started opening up and I started to wonder-should I be pruning? I had heard Cass Bernstein speak about pruning teas, and the teas at the Sacramento cemetery are wonderful with pruning so I too am thinking --do I need to prune them? I had never had this happen before either. Here is what I found on line http://rosefog.us/PrunedRoses/PrunedRoses.htm but it still doesn't answer the main question. I saw this post here that is interesting: http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1718329/pruning-teas-when-to-remove-canes-to-the-base. I still don't know what to do but might just lightly prune back and thin canes to lighten it slightly but not hard prune it. Maybe two brains are better than one. Let me and us all know what you do. Thanks for this post --I am right there with you! Sondra aka Sonbie...See MoreCane hardy hybrid teas and floribundas
Comments (23)JJpeace - we got off track and didn't respond to your question about whether everything but climbers and ramblers should be pruned back to the ground to encourage growth. I would actually advise the opposite in cold zones, since you want as much healthy cane as you can get to regrow the rose in the spring, particularly in HTs and floris where this is unlikely in zone 5 to start with. Think of the canes of roses after winter as batteries for the rose. It's stored energy that helps to jumpstart growth in the spring, and provides a lot more growth points for new canes to start from and grow larger in the season, rather than always having to restart from the ground each year. That's also the reason we aren't usually advised to pre-prune the roses in winter for cold zones, since many roses lose the ends of their canes to winter but will maintain some live cane halfway down if you keep as much of the original cane as possible. Wait till spring to prune, and then only as much as is dead or dying cane unless it's a particularly robust grower, in cold zones. Plenty of roses CAN regrow from the ground each year if necessary, but why make them do so if it's not needed? Some roses are too wimpy to regrow from the ground if they don't have surviving cane, and I don't want to risk it if it's not necessary. In warmer zones it may be necessary to do a more drastic prune periodically to take out old underperforming canes that are past their best life but that so rarely happens in our HTs and floris in zone 5 that it's not a good practice to rely on. The winter already kills off most of the canes anyway, so I celebrate and keep any healthy cane I can for as long as I can. The battery analogy also explains an odd pattern of growth you can get in roses that look like they've survived the winter but really haven't. You can get a rose to leaf out in the spring and then all of a sudden within a week or so die never to return in later spring. What may happen is that the stored energy in the canes was enough to jumpstart a little growth (i.e. battery operated power) but there wasn't enough root support or health in the canes below your new growth to sustain that growth (not enough gas in the tank). Hope that helps Cynthia...See Morerosefolly
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