Growth habits of these David Austin roses in zone6, MA?
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Hardy, disease-resistent roses for zone6 (MA)?
Comments (1)This is a web site that asked people of the area to rate their roses for different things. You might want to check it out. Liane Here is a link that might be useful: http://www3.sympatico.ca/wm.saundersrose/articles/survey.html...See Moreaustin roses - disease resistance and growth habits
Comments (2)My Jude is definitely of a light if variable yellow color, occasionally perhaps with minor shades of light orange/apricot, but I wouldn't call this an apricot rose. It's yellow. My Austins are doing quite well here in the UK without spray, usually better than my HTs and even OGRs, but it really depends on the variety and climate/position, so any generalization has to be taken with several grains of salt. And as Jeri said, even within any given variety (and not just in roses), some plants are stronger than others. I may be wrong, but I don't think that it's necessarily a matter of minimal genetic variability (although this could conceivably also be the case, given the complexity of genetics), but rather how well they have been grafted (if grafted) and cultivated from the beginning. Budwood or cuttings, even if taken from the same mother plant, don't always take in the same way and some remain weaker than others. Some roses may also be more prone to decline with age than others, especially if not in a perfect position/care. So replacing a declining rose with a new one of the same variety can make a difference without the presence of any genetic difference. Generally, David Austin and many other breeders are now increasingly breeding for disease resistance and performance, not just looks. But even this does not always work, as you can see with Austin's fairly new rose Wisley - a most beautiful rose and great performer which is unfortunately extremely prone to BS and has now been replaced by DA with another variety (Wisley 20008). But generally speaking, the newer Austins are more disease resistant than (some of) the older ones, and most of them are better performers. Within other classes, HTs/floris/polys/OGRs I found that it really depends on the variety, although many HTs can be quite lousy in terms of disease resistance. At least in the wetter climates of the southeastern US, UK and northern Germany. Andrea...See MoreWinter performance of David Austin roses in Zone 6a
Comments (96)@Ann Marie, I have a few climbers and ramblers on a trellis and my best advice is to make sure your rose is hardy for your climate by choosing ones that are atleast one or two hardiness zones below yours. That’s the best way to ensure cane survival through winter (right plant, right place). If the rose is near a wall that retains and reflect heat, then I do zone push and have had success with climbers my zone or one zone above. For example, I’m in zone 4b and I have no problems with New Dawn and James Galway surviving winter without protection on a northwest and southwest wall, respectively. As for training the rose, my approach is to tie the canes tight against the support so that it is secure and doesn’t whip around or rub. I do this in the late winter / early spring when the rose is dormant along with pruning so that I can see the rose’s framework. It also means that I’m working with only hardened canes (I never tie soft or semi-hard canes). I use simple garden twine and tie tight double knots. I don’t skimp and make sure the final rose frame work absolutely does not move. I tie the largest, most established canes to the support first, then the rest. I may even tie smaller canes to the bigger ones. Yes, it’s “crossing branches” but so long as they are tied tight and not rubbing, I find it’s totally fine. Key is no movement of any of those framework canes. I intentionally use twine because it blends in, is cheap, and will eventually degrade (since I do this all over again every winter/spring). If the rose cane is really old and has a tough bark and I know it’s not going to expand, then I tie into the support with black zip ties (gasp!). I’ll also mention that optimal blooms form on canes that are positioned between horizontal and 45 degrees. Here’s a pic of my William Baffin climber last year on a wooden trellis....See MoreDavid Austin roses vs kordes roses
Comments (52)I have a loamy clay here in zone 6. I have tried a number of Austins and I loved them, but I usually ended up with some kind of foliage issue. It's been awhile, so I don't remember what. I keep trying different roses that are thought to be good in a no spray garden and last spring I planted - Savannah and Beverly and Pope John Paul. Savannah is a Kordes - my first. It was enjoyable in it's first season. Pretty foliage and I liked the color and texture of the blooms. It didn't grow too much or produce many flowers, but I didn't expect a lot in it's first year starting off bare root from Palatine. But by the end of the season, it was suddenly showing some problem with one of the canes. Not insects, but disease. I left it alone and just hoped for the best this spring. This spring, it had some leaf buds on it, but they deteriorated as soon as they opened and while the other roses were pushing out more buds and then opening leaves, Savannah did nothing and looked worse. So I decided to cut all the canes back to the ground. And I thought that was the end of it really, but to my surprise, it sprouted new canes - about 3 of them. Right now it's about 6-8" tall and has leafed out and looks okay. Not a great start for a rose though. Beverly is another Kordes and last year it did fine and produced more flowers than Savannah and looked healthy. This year it has filled out with leaves. I usually have roses starting to open by June 1st, so, we'll see how it does this year. The foliage looked clean all season last year and so far this year too. Maybe by the end of this season I'll be able to make a better comparison....See Moreveilchen
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