Marie Pavie?
Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
10 years ago
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Comments (8)I bought 2 Marie Pavies and 2 Marie Daleys from ARE and planted them around the end of Dec, 2007. MP got bigger - easily twice as big. Neither did well here from the beginning IMHO, but MP has done better. MD's color was pink in the bud, barely pink upon opening, and whitish thereafter. Very little difference from MP. They both have suffered from tan leaves, not exactly BS, but sickly looking and very little blooming through the summer. I tried to move the MDs to pots, but they croaked in short order. Maybe my thumbs aren't as green as they need to be. The weather is becoming cooler, and it shows. MP has more flowers, bigger leaves - though still a good many tan leaves. I'm not real pleased with them, but they are young. My opinion of the EarthKind rating is that it may be irrelevant in humid conditions - which much of Texas is not. We'll see now that our humidity is about to break how MP does, but we will never have 10 or 20 percent humidity in Florida! All of this that I have described may be summer dormancy, too. Most everything in my garden (Teas, HMs, GaA & even Chinas - except Monsieur Tillier) dropped their leaves and stayed bare for more than a month in August & September. I am really hoping that with maturity will come the ability to handle the heat better. But back to Marie Daley...I was unimpressed. Sherry...See MoreMarie Pavie and Reine des Violettes in pots
Comments (9)I grow Marie Pavie in a large pot, too. I think this is my third year with her & mine has gotten pretty big for her pot. I've never done any pruning to her, but think I will need to cut her back some this spring. Unfortunately, mine only gets a few hours of sun once the trees leaf out...so I get wonderful wafting fragrance coming from lots and lots of blooms in the spring & fall. She repeats okay in between for being in so much shade, but usually not heavily enough to enjoy the wafting fragrance...have to smell her blooms up close then. I have Reine des Violettes planted in the ground, and after two years here, it is tall, but rather lanky (I have a support behind it, but the trellis is only about 4 ft tall, so doesn't help much). I do think it has a good fragrance & love the color and bloom form. Mine repeats fairly often, but only heavily in the spring & fall...and the summer blooms don't last too long in our heat. So far, its disease resistance has been poor here...foliage looks terrible more often than good and sometimes it completely defoliates. I don't plan to remove it, but if it were to die, I'm not sure that I would replace it due to the fungal issues. Here's my Marie Pavie in her pot last year (pic is from May 2014)...I don't have a full bush shot from this year, but she's grown a lot since then...about twice as tall now, but really not much wider:...See MoreIs Marie Pavie a poly-tea?
Comments (5)According to Vintage Gardens last catalogue it is classified as a polyantha & Gregg characterises it as perfect. I agree, I have grown 3 for the last 5 years trouble-free, always in bloom, right now 2 of them are covered with buds, the other one has kindly been pruned by my citified deer. They easily jump (or walk over my picket fence)but are not much of a nuisance. My soil is acid clay which I have amended with my compost & sundry mulches etc. The plants have a beautiful shape without much help from me.Very healthy here where blackspot is usually a problem. Hope my rambling is of some value. Jane...See MoreFirst bloom this year of Marie Pavie.
Comments (3)Beautiful! Several of my OGRs started blooming last week, too. Very early for me to have blooms, but not complaining...as long as we don't get an April freeze....See Moreingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
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