Wow those are pretty. It looks a lot like 'Yves Piaget'.

Got to watch those Austins though. My 'Molineux' was a 3x3 globe for 2 years, now I fight to keep it below 7' tall. My petite little 'Bishops Castle' suddenly has two 10' canes. :(

I have PAoK started. How large did this one end up getting in a hotter zone? I realize this is an older thread so perhaps someone would have a good idea by now of how large it would get. Also, does it like full sun or a little afternoon shade? Thanks

Sultry_ - I have two PAoKs grafted on Dr. Huey and purchased as bareroots in the spring of 2012. By May last year they were both 7 feet wide and 5 feet tall. Of course I have them planted in absolutely the wrong spots - something 3x3 would be far more appropriate!

The canes are thick and stiff. I pruned the bushes down to 3 x 3 in late January. One is sulking while the other wants to continue its plans of taking over the entire bed it's in.

And, oh. My PAoKs get afternoon shade. The flowers seem to me as though they could take full sun, though.

Cheers,
Jo

I am in the San Francisco Bay Area right on the Bay and summers are cool (rarely above 75 F).

Jo, Wow! That's what I was afraid of lol. I was thinking of putting them in the front of the border but maybe I better not. Mine are also grafted on Dr. Huey. I don't mind large roses but they have to go in the right spot. Its hotter here and they will get tons of rain water so they could easily become greedy space hogging monsters :)

Can't even imagine what they would do with decent watering! I haven't fertilized mine since first planting them. I refuse to feed any rose that sends out 5 feet tall and 1"+ thick canes in its first year!!

And, I'll admit this now - my PAoKs are both planted in front of the beds...<sigh>

Jo

Wow she's a beauty! I just got her from DA USA a few weeks ago. Can't wait to get blooms like that.

Yikes! I cannot imaging my PAOK getting to 7'! You folks in CA have your hands full!

I'm in Southeastern US and mine is a fairly mannerly 36-48" by the end of the season. I do summer cuts on my bushes, but can't imagine it getting much bigger without.

Very lovely blooms.

Adrianne

My Princess is about 4 X 5 feet, but has some more growing in her. What I like is the continuous bloom and good resistance to the heat. Our summers are very hot and dry. Diane

Oooh wowsers!! She's beeyootiful!!

Oh my goodness!!!! What a gorgeous rose!!! I've got to ask!!! - any fragrance?

Carol

Carol - yes, a strong fragrance. In my climate, I don't detect it throught out the year, but the spring flush - oh my! And, it's the only rose in my garden whose fragrance wafts in the air.

I do get balling in our foggy weather, and PAoK is prone to botrytis in my garden. She also gets some mildew and her thorns are the kind that impale but despite all this she is a favorite.

Adrianne - I envy you colder zoners in one respect: your roses stay appropriately sized, and always look neat and tidy.

Beth - I am sure you are going to love having her.

Diane - lovely pictures. Don't you love how PAoK gets those coral tints?

Jo

I love it...she gets this and that , mildew and thorns but despite all this she is a favorite.

I like how people can focus on what they like and deal with the rest. I have one on order for spring too.

Thanks, Jo. PAK gets lots of mauve tints, too and a bit of yellow at the center at times. I do like her interesting color-lots of things going on so she's always just slightly different from a plain dark pink. Diane

Wow!!! If I can ever get it here - I will!!!

Carol

I can't wait for mine to bloom- all these photos are just gorgeous!! I was kinda thinking about putting Lady Emma Hamilton between two PAoKs but I better rethink that..now I am afraid they might eat her lol.

Maybe I will do Sharifa Asma on each side of Emma as I originally planned, hopefully she can behave better. I will need to order another Sharifa A. then.

I couldn't resist sharing a few pictures....

Another close-up:

Heaving herself upwards and outwards:

OMG you guys are killin' me! You need to add these to HMF! I can only hope mine will look this beautiful.

Jo your pics are so yummy! Does PAoK change color depending on the weather? Sometimes in photos she seems more pink and sometimes more peachy toned pink.

Thanks, Sultry. In my garden, PAoK isn't as variable in color as some other Austins are. She is definitely pink but gets either yellow, coral or mauve tints.

Coincidentally, I have Lady Emma Hamilton next to one of my PAoKs. PAoK has completely encroached on her, and I will be moving LEH soon to another spot. Yeah, I think you are wise not to sandwich LEH between your two PAoKs!

By the way, LEH for me is one of those Austins that changes color. She's peachy pink in cooler weather and orangey in hotter weather. And, what a fragrance!

Jo

Wow!!!!! I can't bear it!!!! I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Carol

Jo, thanks for the tips about LEH. Do you also have Sharifa Asma? Is she better behaved than PAoK or does she also turn into a space monster in hotter zones? I wanna put something pink on either side of LEH but don't want them to take her over.

SJN, I have both PAK and Sharifa Asma. My temps in the summer get to be about the surface of the sun. My PAK came through like a champ. She gets full sun and is in direct line of hot afternoon sun. She also sits in front of my house which is a very creamy white. Needless to say, she gets the reflective heat off of that as well. Plus we are on water restrictions, so she only gets watered twice a week when the temps can be over 112 degrees and cools off at night to say 85 for two seconds before reaching 95 plus again. She is on her own root and this was her first year. Here are some pictures. Her flowers are gorgeous and HUGE! In cooler weather, they were bigger than my hand! She also makes a good cut flower compared to other Austins. She is one great rose!

This is her in June when she was a baby. By the time December came around she was over 6 feet tall.

This is a picture around Thanksgiving.

Sharifa Asma is also a beauty. I do love that rose and the scent is to die for. She is not overly fond of heat however and I get about three flushes of blooms on her for the year. She doesn't produce when it is hot. I have her in full sun and I think she might enjoy a bit of afternoon shade. She stays very small and mannerly for an Austin, about three to four feet tall and about three feet wide in a well rounded bush. Let me see if I can find some pictures of her.

Your Sharifa is beautiful! It sounds like Sharifa would be more compatible with LEH. I read that LEH also gets a little resentment in super hot weather and may slow down growth in the heat of summer. So the Sharifa and LEH could prob go into some afternoon shade here together.

I think I will put PAoK in full sun. I just need to figure out what else to plant by her now lol. I have them all in pots for now but am trying to figure out where to put the flower beds and roses according to their size and needs. I have lots of room and sun/shade possibilities so I want to get this as 'right' as possible the first time so I won't have to move stuff around later. I have more shade/dappled sun than straight sun areas close to the house but I do have a few areas of full sun. I have some super sunny areas but they are way out by the street (an acre away) so I want to plant closer to the house first so we can enjoy them. Too many huge oak and pine trees here (plus all their roots) grrr.

I ordered Princess Alexandra this year and she's just started budding. She took off rather quickly. Can't wait to see the blooms, although the buds look small. I hope they don't stay too tiny, as I'm hoping for big blooms. Sometimes bud size can be deceiving though.