Lux -- Grandmother's Hat will do it for me, if I pick it fairly tight.

I can get 4 days out of Prospero, The Dark Lady, and Cl. Sombreuil -- Assuming that I pick all of them on the tight side.

Same for Old Town Novato. Benny Lopez, thus far, only 2-3 days.

Jeri

'Viridiflora'.

hehehe.

;-)

~Christopher

I usually curse Etoile de Lyon (sometimes sold as Bermuda's Anna Olivier) for failing to open and being really susceptible to thrips damage. Then I cut some of the perfect fall flowers and they have lasted for 4-5 days in the vase, I took some to the Heirloom Expo and they were sumptuous and fragrant and long-lasting.

I find that a long stem of Perle d'Or holds up nearly a week. As buds open, I snap off faded flowers.

Mons Tillier has great substance in the petals and holds up for 4-5 days if cut before opening..
Anita

I second Etoile de Lyon, best of the teas in my yard for cutting, by a mile, with at least 4-5 days as a perfect cut flower.

On top of that, this year the "second" flush has lasted essentially 4 months -- it has literally not been out of bloom since June. There have been huge numbers of blooms. The first flush, as is many times the case, was a total bust due to damp conditions, but I always forgive this rose because the rest of the year is almost always spectacular.

Second place: Souvenir de Pierre Notting.

OK, I don't know how it will do where you are, but I've noticed that if I cut flowers from my 'Georg Arends' just as the first petals start to open, it will continue opening for a few days in a vase. This one has lots of petals, so even on the plant it takes a few days to open fully. I can't say much about the plant, however, being as it came as a band only this year. Oh, but as a plus, it's thornless. And I know it's classed as a HP, but genetically, it's an HT.

:-)

~Christopher

I don't know if this qualifies, but I entered this rose in the fair last week. (Same plant, but different flower.) I cut it on Thursday and it's still blooming.

Echo (Baby Tausendschon) has little fragrance, but I never spray and it's so pretty :) {{gwi:221711}}From Lavender's Garden

I think it was Christopher who made a recommendation to the forum early this spring of Vick's Caprice. That was my first purchase from ARE and I've been in love ever since: with both ARE and VC. Maybe that's a possibility for your smaller garden with roses from 1900-1939. I always cut VP's most promising buds just as they are beginning to open because I don't want to miss anything. The pretty striped flowers last a good five days and that is without the expert touches you described above. They open slowly and are very fragrant. I always have just one flower in a bud vase though. I'm not sure if larger arrangements with other types of flowers would perform differently. I place mine where they get both lamplight and sunlight.

I hope you let us know what you choose!

(BTW, luxrosa, you gave me very thorough advice earlier this year on planting Albertine near my cedar trees. I just wanted to thank you again and let you know that I walked by them last night and they are doing great. Some of Albertine's canes are almost as tall as I am already! She is remarkable.)

The length of bloom of my roses seems to be directly related to the heat, with roses in early spring and late fall lasting twice as long as the same roses in mid-summer, in spite of air conditioning. One of the best for me has been the early tea, Souvenir du President Carnot, which is also one of my favorite roses overall. Sophy's Rose lasts well cut in very tight bud, and William R. Smith is also quite good, and I love its pearly pink flowers.

Ingrid

Thanks everyone.

I'll see if I can find a 'Grandmothers Hat' and Etoille de Lyon, they are two roses I have long admired in other gardens.
-if you know of anyone who is selling them this autumn, please let me know.
I am batting about 7 failures of 10 roses I've bought without ever seeing them in person, so I am wary of buying another but Georg Arends' looks gorgeous in photos.
- I no longer spray, so could you tell me how disease resistant it is please?
-is it as fragrant as it looks?

So far in my garden the one rose that stands out for longer vase life is
cl. 'Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria' a rose I bought without ever seing it in person, because it is white and someone raved about its' scent. It lasts 4 days in the vase, in summer, and then appears a bit limp though the petals stay on the bloom for another 2-3 days.
It is such an exquisite (never thought I would say that about a H.T. I feel a bit adulterous to my Tea roses) and shapely rose I wonder that F.K.D.' sold better and remained in general commerce so much longer. I bought a ' Frau Karl Druski from Home Depot last year.

Sidhos-house, I'm glad to hear your Albertine is doing well.

I planted a Monsieur Tillier on the corner of my property, because all of my borders are planted with mostly white roses with a little pink showing here and there in White 'Maman Cochet' and Mrs. Dudley Cross among Lamarque, Mme. Alfred Carriere, cl. Sombrieul, something that looks like cl. Iceberg I was sent by a nursery by mistake, cl. Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria' 'Nastarana and Westside Road Cream Tea's, I thought my neighbors might like looking at some color and Monsieur Tillier' certainly provides that in abundance!

Luanne has ' Souvenri du President Carnot, I'll ask her for a cutting.
Echo' is a sweet little thing, thanks for posting a photo of it.
again, thanks everyone.
Lux

Luxrosa -- 'Georg Arends' did get hit with blackspot here in NJ -- as did almost all the others, with a few interesting exceptions, notably 'Golden Buddha' bred by Paul Barden, which has remained PERFECT save for the occasional mildew on a leaf or two (and this says A LOT about a rose in the mid-Atlantic), and the only spray I used was neem oil, baking soda and dish soap in water as a modified Cornell mixture a few times up until late June. 'Georg Arends' shed damaged leaves rather quickly, and did get to an "almost naked" stage once, but leafed out again rather quickly.

Keep in mind that this is a rose that came only this Spring as a band from Vintage. I let it have only a few blooms, and yes, they were VERY VERY fragrant -- strong, sweet "old rose" that is said to be "pure Centifolia" but being as I've never smelled a Centifolia, I can't comment on the comparison. They were a monochrome, unshaded pure pink, shaped like a typical fat Hybrid Perpetual cabbage but with the folded-back pointed-petal look of a Hybrid Tea. Considering its ancestry (it's about 3/8 Tea and 5/8 Hybrid Perpetual), that makes sense. Oh, and the plant is completely thornless -- I still haven't found the first thorn. It's growing as though it will be a short climber, or at least something that would do best with a little support -- like against an open picket fence -- so I have it where I can attach it to the lower part of the deck railing as it gains a little more height.

I think much of the vase-life is a result of it taking a couple days to fully open, due to how many petals it has. Once opened, it holds up another couple of days. I cut one in the "loose-but-closed" bud-stage, sepals fully back, and gave it to my neighbors who share the yard with me. They kept it in a vase inside right by the window where I could see it while working in the yard, and I watched it unfurling over a couple days. By about the fifth day, it started looking as though it was finally past its peak. And I can't imagine they did anything more than stick it in a vase with plain tap water.

If you can't find a plant by Spring, let me know and I'll try rooting another piece of mine. I was hoping to interest Linda Loe of Long Ago Roses in growing a few rooted cuttings of some things I picked up from Vintage which don't seem to be available elsewhere, so at least they don't disappear from commerce. 'Georg Arends' was one of them, so I was going to root a few anyway. HelpMeFind has Pickering as one of the other nurseries carrying it, but it's not on their current HP inventory on their website (perhaps they used to carry it?). Hortico may be the only other way of getting it in the US, though once again, I don't see it among their current HP inventory.

:-)

~Christopher

When it arrived and was repotted, April 25, 2013:
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First flower I allowed to open, May 22, 2013:
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A pic showing 'Georg Arends' on the left ('Nouveau Monde' on its right), taken September 2, 2013. At this time, it's recovering from going naked.

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For me, three antique roses with good vase life have been:
Souvenir de la Malmaison
Paul Neyron
Vic's Caprice

Randy

Frau Karl Druschki is a beautiful rose. I planted one for a friend in Corona. The purity of the white and the way the flowers present themselves on the plant have always been picture perfect. He loves her and calls her fraulein in secret. She's a big beautiful plant now after 10 years.

Not to say anything bad about the Kaiserin. But I only have a few first blooms from my new band. I'm hoping I fall in love like the rest of you have.

Here is a link that might be useful: HMF Frau Karl Druschki

I ordered Grandmother's Hat last week from Burling at Burlington roses. She had bands and gallons in stock.

I don't know if she has Etoile de Lyon, but you can ask when you email her.

I'm thrilled about getting a chance to try GH.
Good luck.

bellegallica,

how does one order from burlington? I googled the nursery and it sent me to helpmefind.com/roses with a list of roses available from burlington nursery that was dated for 2009.

does Burlington have a 2013 catalog anywhere on the web?

thanks,
Lux

The only way I know of is to email her and ask her if she has what you are looking for. She usually responds very quickly.

burlingtonroses@aol.com