Braveheart is very similar in plant and bloom size. Bloom is very old fashion dark red. Never balls in hot humid weather or rain, it's healthy and scented. Blooms last a long time on bush but longer with afternoon shade. I love this rose so much I now have seven of them. The plants that only get four maybe five hours of morning sun have flowers last at least a week and are still beautiful as they crumble to the ground. Bush shape could be better but flower more than compensates to me. Good luck with your hunt.

I've been looking for a ruby red rose with quartered blooms for years. My other requirements being medium upright growth habit, good repeat bloom and strong fragrance. So far, I've only found three: Rouge Royale (HT), Eclair (HP)and The Squire (E). Of these I've only grown Rouge Royale, and I'm very happy with it. If I may ask - what problems are you having with Rouge Royale? Is it grafted on own root?

How about Isabel Renaissance. A beautiful, robust, fragrant red, often quartered, and a good rebloomer for me, as well as disease resistant in my garden.

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Traviata can fit that bill though it doesnt always quarter as perfectly as Rouge Royal does but it also doesnt crisp the way I've seen Rouge Royal burn.

My RR is only a baby, barely a ft tall. I got mine from Heirloom back in May I think. So far, it's doing great here, it doesn't mind the humidity here. Yeah, please tell us what problems you're having with RR.

Labrea beat me to it. Traviata does well in hot and humid unless you have thrips which like it. Traviata is great as a pillar rose, mine is tall and thin.
Nancy

I have 'Tess D'Ubervilles' growing next to 'Rouge Royale'. RR is doing all right in hot and humid Miami. They are in section of my garden where the companion plants have done well...a little too well. When I see a red rose peaking out in this overgrown area (which is all the time), I can't tell which rose it is until I take a closer look. I haven't really done much comparing of the two blooms though.

Since you didn't state the specific problems that you are having with 'Rouge Royale', I can only mention my problem. RR is that a hybrid tea and grows like one--a bit sparsely. (An flower that looks like an old rose ought to be growing on an old rose shrub and not on a hybrid tea stick.) Mine is grafted, much of the plant is somewhat shaded, and I spray. These things could all make a difference.

Tess (forget what "helpmefind" says) seems to be a much larger bush. Probably another Austin monster, but she's a gorgeous one. I suspect that a least one of the red austins would work for you. They prbably all will need to be sprayed to do well though. I have wanted to try 'The Squire.' I read that it does well in Florida. Which is a shame because it's a not easy to find since Austin has requested that his licensed growers not grow it.

Ditto on what Molineux said. I've not noticed it being particularly disease prone though (I do spray on a fairly regular basis). Last year I went about a month in fall with no spray, and RR did very well. Maybe I was just lucky. How about L.D. Braithwaite? I've seen it in a friends garden, and although it's a little brighter shade of red, it has the same nice bloom form.

I have roses that grow like my three Rouge Royales: almost dead. Mine are on Dr. Huey and Dr. Huey is a disaster in my soils and these three show no inclination to go own root. I'm still tempted to try RR as an own root plant.
For the same look bloom, Traviata has it, but is scentless.
Fisherman's friend has the bloom form and scent, but on short (seriously short) stems that emerge as laterals along long stems.
Tess of the d'U doesn't bloom as much for me as FF.
I'm hoping Le Rouge et Le Noire will also fill this slot, and will report next year.

The purpley red bush in this photo is an own root RR. It has done pretty well here. I spray and it still gets some blackspot but other than in the early spring, the blooms open. All of the blooms on all of the roses are frying here right now. No matter what color they are, they are toast by lunchtime.

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Carol

Thank you all so much. It was mainly the "burning" of the flower that concerned me, so I will definitely begin cutting it for the vase earlier.

Fantastic suggestions, and Carol, ohhhh what a gorgeous plant!

Once again, thank you all so much, you are the best!

Ann, Northland Rosarium sells RR own root. I got my second RR from them. By the time it grew into a plant of a good size, the first RR grafted on Dr. Huey did go own root.

Traviata has no fragrance to my nose but is great for rebloom and the blooms are pretty. It is very upright and reaches for the sky.

Karenforroses, I've been interested in Isabel since I saw it across a crowded parking lot. The blooms were so velvety, dark and garnet. I'm glad to hear it's a good bloomer and disease resistant. I think I must try it.

Red Eden has bloomed a few times for me in its pot, and though it's not fragrant the blooms were gorgeous, large, and lasted forever.

Linda