Madame Isaac Pereire vs. Souvenir du President Lincoln
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Comments (20)You're welcome! It's not odd that cooler zones will report more fragrance from many than warmer areas. Those in the cooler places are probably smelling them when the oils and alcohols are most volatile and smell the most. We in the warmer areas often miss out because they evaporate faster as the heat increases. Also, as aridity increases, the scents burn out faster. The various components of each rose's fragrance evaporate at different rates, so one may smell very Damask at first, quickly morphing into orris or citrus, finishing a completely different scent before losing any detectable trace for the day. Any user can access the Advanced Search, but Premium Membership permits you to specify multiple traits and types, where basic membership only provides Advanced Search using one criteria. Kim...See MoreMon Dieu! How Mlle Pereire became Mme Pereire
Comments (24)Floridarose: You asked why I removed 'Crepuscule' and its supporting pergola . . . When, almost 18 yrs ago, we selected a site to build this home, the agent asserted that the towering pines on one side of the property were "mature". I assumed that meant they would grow no taller. What a naïve assumption THAT proved to be. We planted other trees, as did a neighbor. Portions of the property that once were very sunny gradually became shaded during much of the day -- ie, increasingly inhospitable to the roses that once grew so happily in those areas. So there you have it . . . 'Crepuscule' wasn't the only casualty, but it certainly was the most prominent one. Come spring, the side garden where the pergola stood will be planted with Southern Indica azaleas ('George L Taber' and/or 'Mrs GG Gerbing'), and probably a few other shade-tolerant plants. Nearby, beds behind a stone retaining wall will be home to a mass planting of Camellia sasanqua 'Marge Miller', the first-ever trailing camellia discovered in Australia that, at long last, is now available to American gardeners. Several years ago, a group of local water colorists came here on a spring weekend to paint 'Crepuscule' doing her riotous thing on her pergola. I hounded one of those artists mercilessly until he finally caved-in and sold his painting to me. Now that my 'Crepuscule' exists only as a fond memory, and as the subject of that wonderful water color painting, I'm more glad than ever that I was such a persistent nudge. PS: LOL -- You're right, Carol. Sure didn't anticipate such a lively exchange among rose folk regarding social mores and taboos vis-à-vis incest....See MoreNearly lost this one: Most fragrant votes 2005-06
Comments (7)What fun to see all these! Of the new introductions, I think the hybrid rugosa 'Wild Spice' rates a mention! I once had a hedge of Rosarie de l'Hay, one of my earliest to bloom, and it also had a glorious clove-spiked fragrance. Most rugosas share a unique quality to their scent. Glad to see 'Parole' on the list--a Kordes also sold as Buxom Beauty, a rose which leaped onto my wish list the first I heard of it!...See MoreMister Lincoln & stuff
Comments (63)Hi Jim: I'm sorry that your son moves away ... nothing beats doing things with one's child. Mr. Lincoln was stingy at the rose park, tall bush with a few blooms. Acid-phosphatase is when roots secret acid to extract phosphorus from soil for blooming. Roses that can't do such, tend to have cleaner leaves, but stingy in blooms. My La Nia Rias Centifolia rose is an example ... always clean, zero B.S., no rose slugs either. But it hasn't bloomed for over a year. Why? It can't acid phosphatase. It can't secret acid to unlock nutrients from soil, so its leaves are alkaline ... fungi can't grow, and zero acids to attract pests. Jim, I like your idea of giving Mr. Lincoln Brewer's yeast. Brewer's Yeast has 18% potassium, 0% phosphorus, low iron (6%), but high in copper (50%) and decent in zinc (10%), also the anti-fungal mineral selenium is high at 90%, plus high in B vitamins. The last 2 times I gave stingy rose Eglantyne Brewer's Yeast ... it remained healthy, but bloomed lots for 2nd flush. No rose-slugs on Eglantyne either ... so the bitterness in brewer's yeast do repel insects. Lots of people give brewer's yeast to their pets to repel fleas. Years ago when I first started no-spray, I chewed on the young leaves of roses to see why some roses are disease-resistant. Knock-out's young leaf is terribly bitter ... no wonder I never see rose-slugs on that one, nor fungi. Pat Austin shiny leaves are yummy, least bitter and NOT sour either. I'm going to taste some leaves tomorrow, to see if the BS-magnet are sweet or acidic. My village's hard-well water, at pH 8.5, won the best-tasting water-contest in the region. My water is really sweet, I can squeeze plain lemon juice, and it still tastes good. What's missing in Brewer's Yeast is calcium ... I would supply gritty lime, less than 1 Tablespoon to balance Brewer's Yeast acidity at pH 5. If Brewer's Yeast doesn't work for Mr. Lincoln, then MG-soluble for roses might work, that has high NPK values, including phosphorus. MiracleGro soluble high in phosphorus at NPK 18-24-16 is risky, will be BS-prone. I already tested Pennington pellets NPK 4-6-6 with alfalfa, fish bone, and sulfate of potash .... great for blooming, but induced some B.S. since it's acidic, around pH 6. Even that doesn't work on Le Nia Rias ... so I might try MG-soluble with NPK 18-24-16. Here is a link that might be useful: Nutrients in Brewer's Yeast...See Morerinaldo
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