French Roses IN STOCK at Vintage Gardens

10 years ago

French Fireworks-A Blaze of Beauties
Rare French Roses
Available NOW from Vintage Gardens

Greetings!

We've been working hard to confirm all of our French Import rose orders and are now releasing a large number of plants that were produced in excess of the requests we received in 2010 and 2011. This will be a one-time event for Vintage Gardens, as we continue our plans to close our doors once all of our orders are shipped at the end of May, 2014.

Many fine roses remain available on our website and we hope that these old French roses will not distract you from looking once more at all that we have still to offer-roses you will not likely see available in commerce for a long time to come.

The list below includes all French roses we are making available at 9 AM PDT on Sunday, September 22nd, 2014. We will upload these for ordering online at that time, and will NOT accept orders placed or emailed earlier than that time. We do have fairly large numbers of most of these roses, and, unlike our ONE of a KIND sales, we do not anticipate them selling out immediately. We think that if you place your orders on that day, you will likely receive most of what you request.

Many of these varieties have been somewhat overlooked. Over the past two years of studying and appreciating the imported French roses, I have become very fond of many of them; they are my new rose loves. For what it may be worth to you I have marked those roses in bold in this list. I am drawn to roses that are fragrant, exquisite of form and color, and that, as plants make a generous display when in bloom. So many of you have asked 'what are your favorites' and this is MY list!

We would like to thank the customers who supported us in the effort to bring these beautiful old roses, and the roses of Fabien Ducher to America. Not only were they there when we needed the help to do so, but in receiving their confirmations, missing numerous varieties that we had lost or that had simply failed to produce the cuttings we needed to fill orders, they have generously opted to select from this list to complete their orders. Without their help we would be hard pressed to close Vintage Gardens with honor and with grace.

Although we will no longer offer these varieties, we are doing all that we can to see to it that they are distributed to public gardens around the country that work to preserve old roses. Through these gardens, and through a few small brave nurseries who will grow them, notably Pam Greenewald's Angel Gardens in Florida, we hope that they will continue in commerce in the years to come.

Thank you for your support of Vintage Gardens over these past 30 years. We are pleased we could share with you a world of beauty, history and joy.

Gregg Lowery
Vintage Gardens

www.vintagegardens.com

All Plants $30 each
Frederic II de Prusse
Frederic II de Preusse, HCh
B Hommage a Soupert et Notting
B Mme. Eug�ne E. Marlitt
B Mme. L�tuv� de Colnet
BCl Florence Ducher
Ch Alice Hamilton
Fl Hillary First Lady

HCh Fr�d�ric II de Prusse

HM Pink Ghislaine de Feligonde
HP Alexis Lep�re
HP Dr. Masaryk

HP Duchesse d'Orleans

HP Fran�ois Arago
HP La Motte-Sanguin
HP Laurent Carle
HP Marguerite Guillard (Loubert)
HP Marguerite Jamain

HP Mme. de Sta�l

HP Mme. Lierval
HP Paul Verdier (Loubert)
HP Paul's Single White Perpetual
HP Pr�sident Willermoz

HP Rose de Bouffarik

Rose de Bouffarik, HP
Rose de Bouffarik, HP

All Plants $30 each
Silver Queen
Silver Queen, HP
HP Silver Queen

HP "Souvenir de Mme. Berthier"
HT Belle de la Carni�re
HT Eug�ne Boullet
HT Jacques Latouche
HT Jeanne Corboeuf
HT Julien Potin
HT Renaissance de Fl�ch�res
HT Souvenir de Jean Croibier
HT Soyeuse de Lyon
HTCl Comte de Torres
HTCl Souvenir de Claudius Pernet, Climbing
HTCl Triomphe des Noisettes
LCL Meteor

M "Jos�phine de Beauharnais"

N Corn�lie
N Ornement des Bosquets

Pol Ave Maria

Pol Gloire des Polyantha
Pol Ivan Misson
Pol Jeanne d'Arc
Pol Marie Brissonet
Pol Petite L�onie
Pol Petite Marcelle
Petite L�onie, Pol
Petite L�onie, Pol

Petite Marcelle, Pol
Petite Marcelle, Pol
All Plants $30 each
Josephine de Beauharnais, M
"Josephine de Beauharnais"
Pol Primerose Sistau

Pol Princesse Jos�phine de Flandres

Pol R�sel Dach

PolCl Rose de Montplaisir
PolCl Tr�sor de Thorigny
Rug Jean de Luxembourg, Roi de Boheme
S Ferdy
S Salmon Wings
S Sandrine David
S Souvenir de Lucien Massad
T N 92 Nanjing
TCl Niphetos, Climbing
TN Earl of Eldon
TN Milkmaid

TN Triomphe de la Duch�re

Duchesse d'Orleans, HP

Ave Marie, Pol
Ave Maria, Pol

We hope you will take this opportunity to help to preserve these very rare roses that may remain forever rare, loved and grown only by the discerning and kept alive for those who will one day care for them again.

Sincerely,
Gregg Lowery
Vintage Gardens
707-829-2035

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mendocino_rose
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I need another rose like a hole in the head and I am getting 6 of the imports but yes, I've got a beauty in mind for 9 AM.
windeaux
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
From my POV, the only item of interest in the Vintage announcement is the statement, " . . . as we continue our plans to close our doors once all of our orders are shipped at the end of May, 2014."

I hope that's an indication that some of their old, unfilled custom orders remain "in the pipeline".
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Odinthor, I think it may have been last summer or perhaps a little earlier that there was either an email from Vintage or discussion on one of the rose email lists, that Vintage had someone helping out/volunteering in their gardens and that this individual was doing some propagating, particularly of roses they favored, which was I think hybrid teas and/or floribundas. After that I wondered if that was why Vintage had so many hybrid teas and floribundas in stock (and seemed to stay in stock, as in they didn't appear to be selling all that well). So with this sale I thought maybe *some* of these small quantity roses were ones the helper chose to propagate. As to lack of special requests indicating the old roses are not being supported, I don't think that is necessarily the case. Perhaps it is more that people are unwilling to pay Vintage's exorbitant price for custom propagation--$45 per plant is mighty steep in this economy and is also out of line with prices charged by other heirloom rose growers. For example, Angel Gardens in Florida charges $15 extra for a custom root order, and with their quart price at $12 and gallons at $15, the total is significantly less than at Vintage. Rogue Valley in Oregon charges $6 to be placed on a waiting list for a rose, and when that rose is ready, only $6 additional is added to the price. Greenmantle in California doesn't even charge a premium. Instead they ask for a $5 deposit to be placed on a waiting list for a rose, and when the rose is ready, the $5 is applied to the regular price of $18 for a one-year-old plant, 2 gallon size. If Vintage intends to stay in business it is going to have to change its practices. Melissa
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Well, despite saying I don't have any more room, I ended up ordering 4. I'm not how well I chose but I've chosen. Sherry, I applaud your self-control but I've been wanting Isabella Ducrot and was so excited that I had to get it. Once I added one to my shopping cart, I had to finish out the mailing box. I had Labalut Tea in my cart but that made 5 and it got taken out. I hope it wasn't a mistake. If it's anything like Cels Multiflora, I know it'd be great. I think what made me decide to order despite not knowing what will be going on in 2 years is that I like being a part of bringing rare and unusual roses into the US. I also like being a part of helping out--even in a small way, the efforts of Gregg and Gita at Vintage. Everyone might not appreciate everything they do, but I admire their committment to keeping old and historic roses in commerce.
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For those of you who do not know, Vintage Garden is the largest [retail] collection of old roses--and a good many newer ones. VG is pretty much the North Star of the rose community. Without them, we'd be lost. I don't mean to imply there are no other stars--we are more than grateful to all other rose nurseries, rosarians, collectors, etc. But, VG's knowledge, research, and nursery stock is unsurpassed. Even if all you grow are minis and hybrid teas, someday you will need them. As with so many businesses these days, VG has been hit by the down turn in the economy and there is a possibility they will close. Everyone who has ever grown a rose will lose if they do. If you aren't familiar with them, take a look at their site. Here's the link http://www.vintagegardens.com/ For those who are not on the VG mailing list, in Gregg's email today he announced the new availability list and the first installment of new [old] roses for '09. He also adds this spring will determine whether or they can continue and says that more detail will be out in next week's newsletter.
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ms. violet grey
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Is Mme Letuve Colnet the same as Mme Isaac Pereire?
I noticed in Vintage's description that the color
doesn't match what the real Letuve was, a lilac pink

Also, it seems they received possible mislabeled roses.
Then why pass the impostor with the real name per
historical rose info?
jaxondel
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Good question, Mauvegirl. The consensus seems to be that the rose known today as 'Madame Létuvé de Colnet' is actually a mystery rose. The Vingtage description, HMF and Dickerson's "The Old Rose Advisor" concur that the original rose was lilac in color, not the cherry red of the rose now offered as MLdC.

The mix-up appears to have occurred at La Roseraie du Val-de-Marne (L'Haÿ). Unfortunately, Sangerhausen (the other great European repository of roses) does not have MLdC in its collection, so there's no other specimen to be viewed as a comparison.

Whatever the rose now masquerading as MLdC is, it looks and sounds pretty wonderful. Its true identity, though, will probably always remain a mystery.
joshtx
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I ordered Earl of Eldon.

We'll see if I actually get it, though. It'd be nice to have this rose for the cemetery.

Josh
zjw727
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Earl of Eldon...come with me to the Casbah!

Has anyone here ever actually seen or grown this rose? A potential head-turner for sure- that color combo makes me weak in the knees. I can't help but wonder if it's one of those mildewy sort of things...
malcolm_manners
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Just tried to order. Everything worked until I hit "next" after putting in all the address information, and it sent me to the Albas section. It's done that on two browsers now. Anyone else having such a problem?
windeaux
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
System overload? For Vintage's sake, I hope so.
User
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
The poly, Jeanne d'Arc, looks nice.

I wish I could order, but with $30 in shipping/inspection fees, I don't really want to spend $60 on one plant. Filling the box up with three more will bring the grand total to $150 for four plants. Um...nah.

Probably a good deal for you CA folks, though.
ms. violet grey
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
same problem, gave up
too pricey for a band
roseseek
Original Author
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Earl of Eldon doesn't appear "coppery orange with purple shadings" in any of the few photos on HMF. Knowing how light tints such as this appears, have performed in my climate, I honestly don't need another "buff" flower. If it was REALLY "coppery orange with purple shadings", like several of the old Pernetianas can be, it might be worth considering...Kim
alameda/zone 8/East Texas
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I put my order in for just a few.....I shouldn't have but the chance at a few rare ones beat out "common sense". Wonder if they will add any roses to the list as time goes by, seeing as how the last shipping date will be May 2014?
Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I ordered Cornélie (noisette, Moreau-Robert, 1858). I do not know just how enormous this rose will become in my yard? One photo showed a bush that appeared large enough to take over a small house. I figured if I have to pull a couple of plants out to give it room, oh well....It will be my first noisette and plant from Vintage. I hope it thrives.

Lynn
joshtx
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I was also taken to the Albas page.

Ah well, I hope the Earl goes to a good home.

Josh
ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I finally e-mailed Gregg since I hadn't received confirmation of my order before it was opened for general purchase, and he answered promptly and thanked me for naming so many alternates, which leads me to believe that I won't be getting the rose I really wanted....oh well. At least it will be interesting to have a rose that hasn't been grown here before. Apparently they're quite backed up because Gita is now working only every other week.

Ingrid
ogrose_tx
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I got confirmation the other day from Gita, am getting replacement roses Silver Queen and Salmon Wings, will ship Sept. 30. I was so disappointed, but who knows, it may be that I love these even more than the originals!
Poorbutroserich Susan Nashville
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Yay! Lyn, I'm glad you are trying a Noisette. I ordered quite a few....too many really.
I'm hoping that I will be able to live off selling cut roses when I retire.....
Susan
kittymoonbeam
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Does anyone know how many of the imports survived to become part of the Friends of Vintage garden? I know some did not and some did not propagate well enough to sell. There are some beautiful roses on the list. I am hoping that they survive in the 'friends' garden and will someday be available again. I'd love to see them in person one day.
mendocino_rose
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I've seen them but haven't counted them. It looks like a good number of healthy plants. For now they are still in pots.
rosefolly
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
I had hoped to see some of them myself at the monthly volunteer day at Vintage. However, it was cancelled this past weekend due to rain.

Rosefolly
roseybluemoon
10 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago
Malcom~ I have frequently had problems with the order system at VG, especially on SALE mornings. I just set up an email, fill in the listed choices, with the other required billing, shipping, alternates info, agree to terms, etc. and email after the start time. It's frustrating to lose the placement timing at the near end of the order!

Judy

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