Fire ants in my compost pile!
kylerbolin
16 years ago
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Lloyd
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Comments (5)Beneficial grubs are often present in compost -- I always find little white ones in mine and let them be. I don't know what yours are, but if they are pests along with the fire ants, you'd better add lots of green and brown stuff to the heap you already have, mix it up (from a distance with those fire ants) and let it heat up again. The fire ants will leave under those conditions, and I'd think the grubs would leave as well. Don't sprinkle fire ant killer around your compost heap in hopes of killing them. It probably would, but they take the poison back to the nest, and if it's in compost, you're going to have poison in the compost after they die. Better to drive them out somehow, and then what you do if they take up residence in a place away from your garden is your business! (I put out poisoned bait for them on the lawn myself, since there's no other certain way to kill them without killing beneficial insects, too.) I wouldn't use the orange oil on the compost heap either. Compost is usually home to large numbers of earthworms, and you'd kill them, too. What I've done is spray a mixture of orange oil and water in a "C" shape around any area that I want to drive them out of. Actually you can make any shape with an opening in it. I spray only enough to moisten the surface, not enough to penetrate below the surface -- I figure the earthworms are able to sense small amounts of it and avoid its presence on the soil surface. I leave the opening pointed in the direction I want them to go. The fire ants will avoid the strip with the orange oil and exit through the orange oil-free area and I can get 'em later. It's worked for me when boiling water or flooding them with hose-water doesn't budge them....See MoreAnts in Compost
Comments (13)I don't know what kind of bin you have, but I found that lifting my bin prevented the ants from coming back. The pile would heat, or I would soak the area, and the ants would leave, but they would return in the next day or two. Once I lifted my bin by placing it on cinderblocks, they stopped coming back. This may or may not help you. If you are able to lift it, some people believe that you'll also reduce the leeching of nutrients into the soil. I believe that ants are certainly neutral, but I don't believe that they're actually helping the decomp process, at least as it pertains to my composting goals. If anything, they're stealing my material! ;-) (But my primary reason for discouraging them is that I want to avoid them getting any ideas of nesting in the bin.)...See MoreFireAnts in the Compost pile
Comments (21)Hi Jolj: This may be obvious and forgive me, but can you identify where the red ants are coming from or are they under the compost pile. I think you must identify their source, then take very aggressive action. Here in the High Mojave Desert our Vector Control District wants to be notified immediately so they can chart the little monsters movement and they also say they will give you help which may mean just a pest control sight or ? You may need to move the pile a bit to observe their behavior. Horrid, nasty little monsters. That and killer bees make me very careful to keep looking around for anything unusual. Would you be willing to set up your worms in their own condo in the basement or laundry room for now and add as you feel confident you've eliminated the RA's? Out of the blue we suddenly had two hills show up in our lawn and it was practically instantaneous, weren't there one day and were the next. I got to discover them as I was out in the backyard with the dogs after dark one evening and apparently stumbled over one of the piles. I could clearly feel the bite, ouch!, and spent the remaining evening into the morning with my foot in an ice bath to kill the pain. I also take antihistamines due to really bad allegies so it wasn't just an allergic reaction, it hurt just like a severe burn from cooking. IT HURT for many hours. That was back in 2004. The next day I went out with the gasoline jug for the lawn mower, pour gasoline down each hill. I didn't light the hills on fire as we were in summertime and the heat generated down and inside the soil I'm sure did away with them. This past summer, I found them running around my yard on one side in a garden bed. No hills this time so watched their movement to see where they were moving back and forth from. I put down the Amdro granuals and that took care of them in my yard but I will be on the look out when soil warms up and ants begin to appear on surface. I don't care what's bad for the soil, the issues about dogs or cats or kids coming in contact with red ants is non-negotiable, I will do whatever to get RID of them And I agree burning the pile is likely the best bet. Immediate attention is absolutely necessary....See MoreFire Ants Invading My Garden!
Comments (16)Noone here has mentioned cornmeal, which is non toxic, cheap as dirt, and worth a try. Just sprinkle it all around the area you see ants. When I did this in my garden, I noticed that the ants immediately started grabbing the cornmeal and carrying it around, presumably to take it to the nest and feed the queen. I read somewhere that if an ant eats cornmeal, that it will more or less be the last meal the ant ever eats. I did this in my garden, and the ant population decreased markedly. Sprinkle plenty of cornmeal on the dry soil, and within a few days you might see less ants. I like my veggie garden to stay organic, so chemicals were not an option for me. I think this works on any kind of ant that will eat the cornmeal, as it has some protein and some sugar it should appeal to a broad spectrum of ants. The other thing is, if the cornmeal does not work, keep the soil a lot moister, and the ants will move, at least away from your plants. I have read that if you see ants, then your soil is too dry. Just a comment for whatever it's worth. Perhaps mulching the area will help, too....See Moredchall_san_antonio
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