Bayer Advanced Disease Control--is it safe to use?
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Bayer Advanced Disease Control
Comments (1)Can't find it anywhere either, in Nebraska--some folks at the Rose Forum said it can be purchased at Lowe's, but it's not on the shelves at my local Lowe's. I made a trip there just for it, and all they had was the (expensive) three-in-one systemic drench that I DON'T want. I do find the Bayer insect control spray everywhere, just not the disease control. So, I'm still using Daconil for my fungal issues....See MoreUsed Bayer Advanced Fruit, Citrus on potted plants...now what?
Comments (4)What does the label suggest for edible crops? I did a quick google, and the Pre Harvest Interval should be listed (for in-ground plants, of course). I downloaded the PDF of the label instructions. I assume that this info is on the packaging, too. It says that if NO pre harvest interval is given, then it is safe to use up to the day of harvest. Tropicals/avocado: "Restrictions Pre-harvest Interval: Do not harvest fruit until at least 6 days after application. Do not make more than one application per year. Do not apply until after trees have flowered or when bees are actively foraging." For Stone Fruits: "Restrictions Pre-harvest Interval: Do not harvest fruit until at least 21 days after application. Do not make more than one application per year. Do not apply until after trees have flowered or when bees are actively foraging." Josh...See MoreNew research paper concerning tebuconazole
Comments (8)From EPA document: https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&authuser=0&gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&hl=en&authuser=0&q=+tebuconazole+birds "Based on current toxicological data and predicted exposure levels for the new crop uses, tebuconazole is not expected to pose significant acute risk to fish, aquatic invertebrates, aquatic plants, birds and small mammals. However, there is potential for chronic risk to freshwater fish, marine fish and marine invertebrates from proposed uses on turf at 1.4 Ibs ai/A. Though acute risk to birds is not predicted, there is a potential chronic risk to birds that feed primarily on vegetation (short and tall grass and foliage) or insects resulting from all of the proposed new multiple application uses of tebuconazole. Since tebuconazole is persistent (T,,2=800 days) and has high affinity (K,,=906 to 1251ml/g) for soil sorption, it is likely to adhere to soil particles and may move from the application site on entrained sediments in runoff waters. The table below provides a simplified look at tebuconazole risk to non-target organisms for proposed uses."...See Morenew tebuconazole research
Comments (8)Moses W. PA., I have already commented that the original scientific paper in this thread is a reviewed, accepted scientific paper. Here is another reviewed published paper in this field. http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/content/100/2/464.full "The rats were gavaged with 0, 50, or 100 mg/kg tebuconazole or 15 or 50 mg/kg epoxiconazole, respectively, from GD 7 to postnatal day (PND) 16. The doses were based on literature survey." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have some comments on the use of high concentrations for certain types of scientific studies in an earlier thread: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/1701112/bayer-advanced-disease-control-is-it-safe-to-use?n=27 In it I state: "The following was stated: "The testing that was done that promoted the caution was done with amounts that far exceed what the average rose gardener would use in 3 lifetimes." --------------------------------- H. Kuska comment. The above statement would be useful if the only danger was to immediately kill (Acute Toxicity). However, testing may also try to determine long time range negative effects (examples: Cancer, Developmental or Reproductive Toxin, and/or Endocrine Disruptor) i.e. determine if something will be harmful 20 or 30 years after a low dose exposure or exposures to similar acting chemicals. Since the obvious method - apply a low dose to humans and observe for 20 or 30 years is not a practical procedure, high concentration experiments on a finite number of animals (or laboratory cell cultures) for a practical time exposure is a common first step substitute. If this first step substitute indicates a possible problem, then I recommend application of the Precautionary Principle while further definitive testing is carried out (unless one wants to volunteer to be what I call "a beta tester")." Please read the original thread to put this quote into the full context....See Moregardenerzone4
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