Rodja, I did not like Blue Paradise because of its floppiness here(I live near the North Sea- very windy) I'm kind of "allergic" to floppiness. Phlox Blaue Morgen has an identical colour but stands up much better(although not perfect to begin with). The best standing of the "blue" ones is Boguslaw's Blaue(from Germany). This one is storm-proof. The general rule here in Europe is , that English varieties of phloxes have bigger flowers, but German ones are more practical (healthier and less flopping). It applies also to Delphiniums, Heleniums and Asters. This post was edited by wieslaw59 on Sun, May 19, 13 at 10:13

Campanula, for some reason the majority of the tall heleniums is yellow or orange , and the red ones are medium tall. I have one red that is taller than the others, unfortunately NOID. Of the red ones whose names are known the tallest with me is Indianersommer, and it is only slightly above 1 m with me. I like that one. I started with Moerheim Beauty, which had very beautiful flowers, unfortunately the stems are very thin and can't take our wind+rain combination In the link below you can see Dauerbrenner, which is listed as more than 1.5 m tall, but I do not know its sturdiness. You may also see the catalogues on this address: http://www.zur-linden-stauden.de/shop/index.html The catalogues are old but as far as I understand they are still valid(but in German). This nursery produces a lot of their own Heleniums and Phloxes. Here is a link that might be useful: All Heleniums

"I am now a bit embarrassed having posted mine" ... mmmm, planted with that hydrangea and the clematis in the background, looks great to me and I'm gonna steal the combo idea :) Several years ago, I so nearly had tossed Thalictrum 'Splendide' in the compost pile. For two seasons it languished against the east side of my house, I mean it grew no more than 8" high and always covered in mildew. Was gonna throw in the towel, though recalled just how highly touted the plant was, so I plunked it in the main large flowerbed with no thought as to placement or care to tend it. The following summer it made a nice recovery and a friend noticed it and remarked "OMG, Terry, I love, love, love that big purple plant and must have one for myself! The plant is about six years old, the first two seasons don't count, as it was pathetically barely hanging onto life then. It's been in its current location for two years now and in very deeply amended soil with good moisture and full sun. As to the width, I'd say the foliage near the bottom isn't much more than 2' wide, though the flowering top is impressively large. Here's another photo

To CTC & Roxanne: I thought you and anyone else interested in ordering Thalictrum,'Splendide' might want to see this. -------------------------------------------- Re: Thalictrum FROM: Joshua Spece TO: Annie Message flagged Monday, August 22, 2011 8:21 PM Message body Hi Annie, I appologize for the slow reply. We are relocating our nursery this fall, so things are a bit chaotic here! Sadly, I'm not sure that I will have T. 'Splendide' in the future. The only supplier I know of for it, is no longer producing it. I will keep your email, though, and let you know if I happen to find another supplier. Sorry! Josh In The Country Garden & Gifts Specializing in Hostas and Water Gardens http://www.inthecountrygardenandgifts.com Gardener's Touch Hand Cream http://www.gardenerstouch.net Annie wrote: > > Comments: > > I am interested in ordering Thalictrum 'Splendide'. I see that you are sold out of it. When will you have it for sale again and can you contact me then? > That is so beautiful! > > Thank you. > Annie