Forest Pansy Redbud: leaves didn't come back on some branches
Wayne Reibold
15 years ago
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Forest Pansy Redbud: harsh pruning yields best color leaves?
Comments (8)Unlike many people I actually like them in bush form (as well as tree form). I have both. Last fall I bought two Forest Pansy Redbuds that were only about 2' tall and shrubby and they had the most gorgeous fall color that I've ever seen on a Forest Pansy, out of this world. Why I'm asking about harsh pruning (as in close to ground) is I have one that was a tree but has had so much die back that it is a tree trunk with only one branch coming out of the trunk, not very attractive. I'm thinking I'd prefer it as a shrub vs. what it currently looks like and perhaps a harsh prune many envigorate it but before I do a harsh pruning on it (e.g., 1' from ground) I want to have some idea I wouldn't kill it. For me it is all about color of leaves, particularly fall color of leaves so whether it is in tree form or shrub form I just want great fall color. I found the comment in the book about a harsh pruning on Forest Pansy yielding best color leaves intriguing and it makes me wonder if the 2' shrub Forest Pansy Redbuds I bought this fall had out of the world fall color due to a hard pruning which left them in shrub form. The 2' ones I bought are vigorous full multitrunked sort of like a Forsythia, are not newer seedlings....See Moreforest redbud pansy
Comments (6)The only redbuds safe in zone 4 are the Univ. of MN strain, realistically. The northernmost parts of the redbuds range are really zone 5 in parts of MI, Ontario, Iowa, and Ohio (if you use the old USDA map). I'm not even sure if the MN strain is actually MN native or just something that was bred by selection over time in Minnesota winters to pull out the hardiest of the hardiest. Forest Pansy, and most of the cultivars, often come from more southern selections and are even less hardy - probably zone 6 at best. 'Appalachian Red' is probably OK to zone 5, but not 4. 'Columbus Hardy' (from Ohio, as you'd expect with the name) is also zone 5, maybe 4B from what I've seen. The other cultivars are all probably 5B-6A. If you're in zone 4, I'd stick with the MN strain. Zone 5, I'd stick with MN strain plus seedgrown from northern sources and Columbus Hardy. Zone 6-9 any of them should do well, but in z9 you might not get enough winter chill for the northern strains so I'd use a southern seed source. They pretty much all do fine here in Maryland, zone 7. This post was edited by hairmetal4ever on Fri, Jun 13, 14 at 12:10...See MoreNew Forest Pansy Redbud tree with trunk wounds - need advice
Comments (8)Thank you so much for your help! I have included the photos you asked for below. Our landscape designer recommends that we keep the supports in place for around one year and take them off somewhere around Nov. 2016. So you don't think we need to ask for a different FPR tree? Are these common enough problems that we might end up with similar issues with any FPR tree we get? Thanks again so much! Here is picture of the full trunk. The split wound is at the very top middle of the pic., to get an idea of how each of the wounds are located to each other. Here is a close-up of the bottom of the trunk. Here is a better picture of the support lumber from the side. And, here is a close-up of how the support lumber is attached to the tree. Just let me know if you or anyone else would like to see any other photos of the tree to give us advice. ~Thanks!...See MoreRedbud 'Forest Pansy' reverts to green
Comments (8)It depends, Embo. Roses...in fact all the rosaceae family seem very affected by replant syndrome (I would be the first to admit it is still not fully understood by me) so I wouldn't plant a related plant in that spot for 5 years or so. There are various tricks, such as planting in cardboard boxes (using fresh soil) and, a few years ago, there were some really interesting experiments done using zeolite (along with various arbuscular myccorhizae (sp?). Soil sterilisation is still used (not by me) and, in fairness, it hasn't been an intractable issue - tends to stop the endless shuffling about of plants a bit but hery, there are so many choices. Replant is a different kettle of fish than verticillium (which is still affecting my redbud, rootstock or not) so I would never plant a cotinus, redbud or other susceptible plant in this spot. I know replant is often not much discussed in the US - what would be your take on that? I struggled, over on the antique rose forum, to explore the issues surrounding this mysterious (and according to some people) imaginary, plant syndrome. It is one of those things which are a 'given' - much like soil amendments...until proven otherwise....See Morepicea
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