Will they do well facing EAST with limited sun?
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Will they do well facing West?
Comments (9)>I'm hoping to plant 3 new roses against our wooden fence and they would get the afternoon sun, facing west. Would this be a good location for them? Also, we planted an 8 foot flowering cherry tree about 6 feet in front of that spot. I know they are fast growers (it's not the weeping kind, it's a prunus kanzan) but the foliage isn't much to speak about for now and probably won't provide much shade for years. Hi Natanya, It probably mostly depends on whether you already have the roses or not, and if so, which varieties you chose. Probably hybrid teas wouldn't work because they mostly need more sun than that, and many wouldn't get tall enough to discount the shading effects of the fence. If your rose variety can grow tall enough, the influence of the facing direction won't matter much; which direction of exposure a larger and taller-growing rose gets next to a fence isn't as important as which exposure it might have next to a (much taller) house. Disease resistance and shade tolerance in getting to that taller condition would be things to consider, though. If you have bought or can choose to buy now a longer/larger-growing rose variety/varieties that are reasonably disease resistant and that can also take a bit of shade, even a little bit, by the time it gets to the top of the fence, it will effectively be growing in full sun--if it's not directly in a northerly line with the flowering cherry you planted to the west of your west-facing fence. Most roses can take full sun, though not all. If you haven't bought/chosen the rose variety yet, consider something like a hardy Cornelia (or another hybrid musk hardy in your area). Cornelia can take a good bit of shade, and will do well in full all-day sun too. Lyda Rose would work beautifully there too. (Don't go by what just a single bloom of Lyda Rose looks like when estimating its impact; it's spectacular as a whole large plant gets covered in blooms with a faint lavendar pink edging to each petal.) Some shade-tolerant climbers might also work well to climb on your fence: Annie Laurie McDowell, Renae, Climbing Pinkie, Cile Brunner. Many of the hybrid musks can serve well as climbers too, and many of them would be hardy there. If a taller or larger-growing rose doesn't appeal to you, the hardy (and wonderful!) florabunda Grüss An Aachen would work, and it starts blooming early enough that it might well have blooms at the same time as your new cherry tree. The floribundas Iceberg/Brilliant Pink Iceberg/Burgandy Iceberg ought to work too (and likely blooming with your cherry tree), and Snow Gosling would look good too. Many lower-growing polyanthas might fit the bill: Marie Daley, Marie Pavie, Baby Faraux, Lovely Fairy, Lullabye, The Gift, Cécile Brunner. If you go with these smaller (disease-resistant) roses, I don't think they'd look good if you plant them two feet out. Maybe 15-18 inches--even taking into account some horizontal growth. Another thing to consider: if you go with smaller roses, you will probably need more of them than just three if the intention is to create a line of color all along the fence. Best wishes, Mary...See MoreGrapes on East facing or West facing wall?
Comments (2)personally, I'd go for the east wall. The west walls just bake, and It sounds like your east wall will get some light for the first part of the day. Sometimes certain grapes turn out to be more tolerant of a little shade than you might think but use your best judgment....See MoreWhich plants would do well in a shady north-facing SF garden?
Comments (10)Don't underestimate the UV in foggy climates. It can actually be higher than one thinks. Looking down at plants is very different than viewing them at eye level. I have a bed that I view more often looking down from above, out of my kitchen window, than I do while passing by to work in my front or furthermost back yards. This is the triangular bed viewed as standing in my neighbor's yard on the left side of it: This is the same bed viewed from above, although the coleonema (which surrounds the lamppost) isn't in bloom here: Everything I plant in this bed is planned to look good from above. I have 15 separate beds and this is the only one I treat this way. I have fiddled a lot with the plants in it since it lives on runoff so is one of my few truly xeric beds. It gets very little direct sun but a lot of very bright shade (it looks south/southeast, instead of north like yours), so it can take even sun-lovers like the purple Lantana trailer on the RH side. One small shrub I have in a north-facing bed MIGHT work for you, but I'm not sure. It is a regular water lover, not drought resistant. I love this plant! It is a variegated fuchsia, "Firecracker". A bit tender, so it would probably do better for you in SF than it does for me in the Oakland hills....See MoreWhy won't English ivy do as well in West facing window vs. East?
Comments (20)I grew ivies for a few years on a north-facing windowsill facing out on a covered porch -- so basically, no natural light whatsoever. Instead, I had electric lights on timers set to 16 hrs/day year round. During the summer, that meant daytime temperatures in the 80s or even the 90s and night-time temps in the 70s, and I never saw much growth. In the winter, with freezing north winds beating on the window, the lights would still heat the windowsill up into the 70s when they were on, but the temperature would plummet into the 50s or lower as soon as the lights turned off -- and the ivies grew like crazy. So... These are very much cool-weather growers. If the west-facing window is much warmer than the east-facing window, then I'd say that's why the ivy there is growing more slowly. (I only have one of those ivies now, and am debating whether to keep it... It's never quite recovered from the spider mite plague that went through a couple years back. FWIW: I've found that the key to keeping mites off ivy is to give the plant a shower every couple of weeks whenever the weather is warm but the humidity is low -- which for me translates to most of the spring. Related trick: Put the ivy under a ceiling fan after the shower to dry the leaves off quickly, otherwise you'll get leaf blight.)...See Moredublinbay z6 (KS)
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