Coast Redwoods and Giant Sequoias in the Southeast
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Growing redwoods and giant sequoias
Comments (33)Just at a guess, giant sequoias might do better than coast redwoods in a climate with cold winters. After all, they grow in the Sierras. Coast redwoods once had a much larger range than they do now. These days they are happiest in the fog belt of the coast, cool temperatures and damp air. I honestly don't know how flexible they are about conditions. I was surprised to see them at the Arnold Arboretum in Boston. Or were those sequoias? I thought I saw both. The third member of this family, dawn redwoods are wonderful trees. Please be aware though that they are deciduous. Sometimes this comes as a shock to people who thought that all conifers were evergreen. They are one of the exceptions. I am blessed to have four coast redwoods growing in my yard, sixty or so years old. No credit to me (they were planted before I was born), but I do feel fortunate to have them in my care. There is something wonderfully inspiring about these magnificent living things. Rosefolly...See MoreWhy so few coast redwoods?
Comments (19)The amount of misinformation on gardenweb boards over the years is very annoying to me. So many people talking out of their a--. It is a rare case that someone is authentically, forgivably mistaken. As pineresin is when he states no large S. semprevirens are found outside zn 8 & 9. "z8 is a tad marginal for Coast Redwoods" LMAO! In fact, there are two 90' coast redwoods in zn 7b Williamsburg, VA, and has been since around 1955 when they were planted. I personally saw that tree after 0F in 1994 and it was uninjured. Lightning, hurricanes, and inept college landscaping crews are the greatest threat to those trees now, if 1979 and 1985 could not kill them off. One was seriously damaged by Katrina. Furthermore, one of the best informed horticulturalists in the Washington, DC, area, discovered a large old CR tree in a 7a suburb of DC. He has a Pineresin level knowledge and there is absolutely no chance he was mistaken. I think he said it was around 40' but I could be mistaken. Such a tree would have survived well below 0F as recently as 1994. He tried to get Hines to micropropagate it as a hardy coast redwood but could not get them interested. (he is personal friends with higher-ups at Hines, and has introduced other plants through them) People don't seem to understand/appreciate that in the last several hundred thousand years the Earth's climate has experienced a great deal of variability and that most plants have resistance to conditions well beyond those in their current native ranges. Pictures have been posted of the test Wollemias in DC, after around 7-9F (sorry Pineresin you will have to translate) and some were almost uninjured appearing. That is probably 10F colder than the minimum in the current location where W.n. was found. I grew for many years a Fuchsia regia from the Orgon mountains of Brazil, a 9b roughly like the climate of J'burg, ZA, yet this plant tolerated 0F with ground frozen solid 6 inches deep. Such conditions would not have occurred in its native range for at least several thousand years, probably. Not all plants retained the genes that either purposefully or surreptitiously permit such survival of course....See MoreRedwoods and Sequoias near San Francisco, CA
Comments (25)Naturegirl: Excellent planI donÂt think you could do better. Of course you will see the Mariposa grove of sequoias. They are a bit out of the way from the other park attractions, but I would say they are a "MUST." A couple of things to look for: By all means stop to see the "Grizzly Giant" tree. This is one truly spectacular tree and in its way as amazing a giant sequoia as you can see anywhere. The diameter is truly massive, but overall it is technically not one of the largest because it is not so tall as othersÂjust a bit over 200 feet--, but no matter. The crown of this tree is truly grizzled and gnarled, suggesting that has been growing there forever. Depending on how much time you have, a couple of suggestions: Try to see one of the fallen trees. There is one called "The Fallen Monarch," but I canÂt remember how far one has to walk to see it. And since I was last there, the Wawona Tunnel tree has fallen. You might want to make a point of seeing that--it should be right next to the road. One of the finest trees is the Galen Clark treeÂgiven that name because that is supposedly the first tree he saw when he discovered the grove. It is not unusually large, but perfect in its formÂat least the last time I was there. Also, I understand there is a kind of tram ride that has been built. Maybe you could get around more easily that way to see the grove. But anywhere you stand in this grove you will see wonderful trees. And if you see this grove, and Big Basin, you will really have more than just a "taste" of the most amazing trees in the world. I would recommend that you get up early, very earlyÂand get to Yosemite early enough to see the Mariposa grove the first day. Then you would not have to break up your stay in the valley area the next day. Two recommendations: first, for a hike in the valley, the vernal falls trail is nice. I canÂt remember exactly how far it is to get to the top of the falls, but it may not be too far. Some of the other falls in November may not have much water. Bridal Veil may be dry, and Yosemite falls itself will be at a low ebb. But Vernal Falls should still be very nice. Second, Glacier Point should be a must. It is a bit of a drive, but not much walking required once you get there. One bummer for you is the days are so short in Nov. Well, have fun!!...See MoreNew Giant Sequoia Site!
Comments (45)Not to quibble, but I don't think that 95% of the world figure is accurate. In China(20% of the world's population) most everyone uses Chinese measurements like lÇ, chÇ, mÇ, jÄ«n, etc. as do many SE Asian countries(especially ones with significant historical interaction with the Chinese). I'd bet that probably 1/2 of English literate people on the internet(ie. potential posters on gardenweb) use Imperial measurements still. I try to post both measurements to save people from having to convert them themselves, but I also like number crunching so it is also for a bit of personal want as well. I do forget to do this from time to time though. Anyway, back to the original posting, I too enjoyed the new website and thought it was very convenient to have all of the information brought together in one website. I think the general public(non-plant people) will find it easy to navigate and perhaps start a passion for plants within them(hopefully)....See Morepineresin
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