Could this be the Damask rose 'Bella Donna'? (Photos)
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Comments (15)After seeing Celeste's wonderful pics, it was necessary for me to inquire about the Damasks and Gallicas - just to see if the envelope can be pushed a little. Oh, yes I am learning that Chinas, teas and Noisettes are the best for down here. And also Banksias and Bourbons, possibly? Excellent! Knockouts do well also but OGRs have my heart. Banksias are once bloomers, right? Or does it depend on how you cultivate them? Jeri once posted a lovely photo of a yellow banksia - I had never seen one before and was amazed. My father used to tell me that it was too hot for roses in FLA, and I never saw any in the part FLA that I grew up in. Every rose we purchased bloomed a little and then died. Now having discovered that the right roses WILL survive and bloom here, I feel as if I can have the garden I've always imagined - orange trees and roses! Very few people in my subdivison grow any flowers. It looks so stark and drab -not anything like the name Florida implies. The "snowbird" folks here would grow roses if they could basically abandoned them for 6 months a year, so I'm thinking that introducing OGRs in my front yard might encourage some of them to take cuttings...? The roses they could grow would be the care-free roses that are referred to as "found", "passalong" or "cemetery" roses (we call some of them 'cracker roses' here). thanks for all of your suggestions and help, Avalon...See MoreI don't think it's Autumn Damask!! (Photos)
Comments (6)ROTFL!!! No, you do not have Autumn Damask. You have here a modern rose. I've found, when this happens, that the incorrect rose is often one that sits on propagation benches right up against the correct one. In this case, checking Rose Fire's alpha list, the rose right next to Autumn Damask would be 'Autumn Sunset.' Check the link below, and I think there's a probability that's what you have. A tall Shrub Rose int. in the 1980's, which looks quite interesting -- unless you were counting on Autumn Damask! Jeri Here is a link that might be useful: 'Autumn Sunset' at Rose Fire...See MoreDamask rose gift. Care?
Comments (10)To tell the truth the photo on the top right could be a damask (or other old rose). But the bright green, distinctly rugose (wrinkled) leaves and muddled blossom of the top left and bottom right look like rugosa to me. Rugosa is very fragrant with a delicious clove like scent ... so. Most of them bloom all summer. Damask leaves tend to be smooth. I could be wrong. The real give away would be the tomato-like round hips of rugosa. They come with single and double flowers (like those in your pic) and tend to cerise colors. Damasks on the other hand do get that kind of disease -- could you have two distinct kinds of bushes there? Here is a link that might be useful: Rosa rugosa...See MoreOriginal Damask Rose from Middle East
Comments (73)@LindaLu LindaLu--If you are in Southern California, I would recommend finding out how well Ispahan would do in your climate before you make a decision. My understanding is that it, like all European once-bloomers, needs a certain amount of cold weather in winter to form buds when spring comes. I don't know how your climate would affect a repeat-bloomer like AD or its once-blooming relative Kazanlik. What I can tell you is that Ispahan, Autumn Damask, and Kazanlik are all about the same shade of pink, which I would describe as medium. The portland hybrid Marchesa Boccella is just about the same color if you are familiar with it. In growth habit, Ispahan is tall. Mine is probably close to seven feet--some of the canes are upright, several which were arching over with the weight of their blooms this spring are now producing new upright laterals. When people see my roses, Ispahan always draws attention. in my climate it has a long bloom cycle and is spectacular in bloom. When not in bloom, it is a clean, neat, healthy rose. I would not want to be without it. In fact, I have two and when the smaller plant was killed by a vole, I propagated another to take its place. Autumn Damask, for me, is a smaller plant, and though beautiful in a different way, does not draw the attention of strangers as Ispahan does . I am fascinated by it partly because of its history and its link to the rose trade--I love that connection even though it isn't part of my cultural heritage. I had read about this rose before I ever saw it, and when I did see it at a nearby botanical garden it took me by surprise, announcing its presence in a small courtyard as I entered by the heavenly scent of its flowers. There were six plants in full bloom, flanked by Rosa Mundi and Apothecary, and when I saw the ID, I knew I was looking mentioned by Vergil. It was exotically beautiful--canes and foliage as well as flowers--and did not resemble like any rose I had ever seen; it has been my special favorite ever since. Do, please, let us know which rose you select. I never tire of hearing about Damasks, and am glad to know others who love them, too. Lindsey...See Morejerijen
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