Could this be the Damask rose 'Bella Donna'? (Photos)
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Comments (7)I adore "La Ville de Bruxelles" of all the pink once blooming roses I love it best, for it is astoundingly beautiful. The pink roses have a character that I find ravishing. -Scent is light to my nose but very refined, of Damask rose. -Health. I wouldn't suggest a rose for its health for a garden that exists in different conditions, however in Oakland, California "La Ville de Bruxelles" is one of the top 12 roses in a no-spray garden among more than 100 Old Roses, for its' very good disease resistance. Because our climate favors p.m. a bit more than blackspot, I suggest this rose with a caveat that I do not know how well it would fare where conditions greatly favor the spread of blackspot. For sumptuous beauty that is unsurpassed... in my eyes..."La Ville de Bruxelles", truly I am all aquiver just remembering its loveliness. -Tough. I came across a plant of "La Ville de Bruxelles" that had been abandoned in a small 5 inch wide pot, that had been left wedged into the ground on a grassy hillside in a public garden a few yards behind some tall bushes, where had been forgotten for more than 5 years. This amazes me because most years we have 3 consecutive months of drought. During that time, to my knowledge, no one had noticed it, nor fed, or pruned, or watered it, and it was outside the irrigation zone. Yet when I came across it one spring "La Ville de Bruxelles" was still healthy and valiantly blooming with a lavish display of pink roses of a marvelous hue, texture and poise. Luxrosa...See MoreDark red, strong old-rose/damask fragrance
Comments (8)Thank you, Melodye! they do look similar! It would seem that they make this sort of rows around the canes, but with very different sizes and sometimes touching each other, as if fused into a "thworn" (wow, sorry, that was really bad). I just got home and remembered that two of the roses you see in the full-bush shot are actually becoming hips, one of them is getting some blush with the sun. I don't know if you've seen it form hips, but if you have maybe they're somewhat distinctive? When they ripen I'll come back with a photo. It's nice that you mention it can do well in 45C temps, here we usually don't go higher than 40C, though I remember once we were at 43C and everyone was dying (figuratively, of course); at those temps this rose is pretty active, though the blooms can burn because of how dark they are. Thanks again!...See MoreCould someone ID this pink rose?
Comments (14)Thank you Paul. I know you have an old blog that featured some of the roses that you grow (or used to grow) and you rate them based on your personal merits. Has your personal ratings been changed since then? Is Charles de Mills still one of your favorites? And is La Ville de Bruxelles still on your top five list? The reason I'm asking is because I think I share the same taste of roses like you. I love your Marianne rose but too bad it's not avaliable in my country and I'm also starting to love the singles!...See MoreOriginal Damask Rose from Middle East
Comments (73)@LindaLu LindaLu--If you are in Southern California, I would recommend finding out how well Ispahan would do in your climate before you make a decision. My understanding is that it, like all European once-bloomers, needs a certain amount of cold weather in winter to form buds when spring comes. I don't know how your climate would affect a repeat-bloomer like AD or its once-blooming relative Kazanlik. What I can tell you is that Ispahan, Autumn Damask, and Kazanlik are all about the same shade of pink, which I would describe as medium. The portland hybrid Marchesa Boccella is just about the same color if you are familiar with it. In growth habit, Ispahan is tall. Mine is probably close to seven feet--some of the canes are upright, several which were arching over with the weight of their blooms this spring are now producing new upright laterals. When people see my roses, Ispahan always draws attention. in my climate it has a long bloom cycle and is spectacular in bloom. When not in bloom, it is a clean, neat, healthy rose. I would not want to be without it. In fact, I have two and when the smaller plant was killed by a vole, I propagated another to take its place. Autumn Damask, for me, is a smaller plant, and though beautiful in a different way, does not draw the attention of strangers as Ispahan does . I am fascinated by it partly because of its history and its link to the rose trade--I love that connection even though it isn't part of my cultural heritage. I had read about this rose before I ever saw it, and when I did see it at a nearby botanical garden it took me by surprise, announcing its presence in a small courtyard as I entered by the heavenly scent of its flowers. There were six plants in full bloom, flanked by Rosa Mundi and Apothecary, and when I saw the ID, I knew I was looking mentioned by Vergil. It was exotically beautiful--canes and foliage as well as flowers--and did not resemble like any rose I had ever seen; it has been my special favorite ever since. Do, please, let us know which rose you select. I never tire of hearing about Damasks, and am glad to know others who love them, too. Lindsey...See Morejerijen
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