Huskee electrical issue in ignition circuit
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Repowering electrical issues 18hp briggs
Comments (11)All updates concerning this engine swap will end up here ... not in the big ole nut thread. It looks like Bill K was right. Just talked to a B&S tech. The 10 amp had bigger mags on the flywheel despite the one part number. So I'm not quite pushing enough power even with the stator swap. It does however push enough to work the PTO clutch maybe with a little battery help I really don't know yet for sure but it has done a fine job mowing half the acre. Only reason I know for sure its not pushing enough is when I engage the PTO the battery charge light comes on too. According to the B&S tech it should work fine for me if I put a charger on it after using it. Which IMHO is a small price to pay for not having to go out and buy a new throwaway mower. As for my measurements on the electrics they came up wonky as all get out ... I'm beginning to wonder about the accuracy of my multimeter. 2amps at .5 volts? Ill give it another test later and hopefully get a better reading. Gonna get some alligator clips for the multimeter so I know that I am making contact well. The little pokie probes are unreliable in my book unless I can actually stick them in something. For now I must go and get another bolt to hold the steering linkage that I apparently didn't bolt down well enough after dropping the engine in....See MoreNew Huskee headlight questions
Comments (5)I prefer to have a separate switch and use a low wattage LED lights. I bypass the wiring harness and run directly to the battery. Others may have a different / better opinion - but I like to be able to use my lights when the motor is NOT running. LEDs seem to work best for my needs; since they are bright and they dont suck the battery dry... I have made this modification to my small sears which never had any lights on it. (its a small rear engine unit) - I spliced 2 small LED lights into it (each cluster having 3 LEDs in it). Since there was no obvious location for me to conveniently mount a light switch - I mounted the switch under my seat. I positioned it so that it would be protected from direct rain fall - but still conveniently located that all I have to do is reach below the seat and flip the switch. Problem: -------- When it does rain - the pooling water eventually does make it to the switch housing and the LED lights which I have wired into the system will actually light up (dimly) - even though the switch is physically off. I have my homemade wiring harness soldered to a washer - and now I simply connect the washer to my battery terminal when I need light. When I have the time and energy - I will relocate the switch AND perhaps if I ever win the lottery I might even invest in a waterproof switch! Also ... ------------------ I have a scotts where the engine is up front (under a fiberglass hood). If I ever make the same modification to the scotts - I will be sure to hide the switch under the hood. I honestly thought I would use/need the lights frequently on the scotts - but I disconnected the wiring harness that runs up to the headlights (the connection is under the hood) and I very occasionally hook the wiring harness back up when I need light (as weak as it is). I was having some charging issues at one time - and this is why I was initially disconnecting the lights in the first place. But I have also come to realize that these bulbs are rather "hungry" and really don't work all that well - even when I have the 20HP v-twin motor spinning fast ( I'm not impressed). I was considering getting a couple of those LED lamps like the ones found at this site : http://www.superbrightleds.com/tail-brake-turn.html It is worth noting that the head lamps in my scotts (and probably your husky) are reverse light bulbs from an old car ( i think - because these lawn tractors don't have a high/low beam filament). So finding a direct replacement LED bulb which is worth having (and not a big drain on your electrical system - is probably NOT very difficult. In fact they will be a lesser drain on your system than a standard reverse bulb. On my little sears - im using 2 separate 3 LED red clusters which I got in the automotive section in WalFart (about $5). Yup ... RED - they seem real bright for what little power they draw (I had a 4 LED Amber unit also - but the 3 LED red is better/brighter). My brother mentioned to me that for some reason us humans see rather well in red light. So ... If your going to do any cutting and splicing - you might want to consider splicing in a red LED cluster to the back of your rig - its well worth it. I used gorilla glue to attach a computer hard drive magnet to the back of the LED cluster and left a good amount of extra wire so that I could move the red light to different locations on the mower. I use the little sears to move boat, and motorcycle trailers (i mounted a 1 7/8 ball hitch to the body)... The red lights Ive rigged up to front and back is perfect for what I'm doing (and it doesn't suck the battery dry - even when the motor is not running). I can easily leave the RED LED lights on for up to 2 hours. (small investment + big bang = happy camper)... A friend and I moved a (trailer) the other night - and left the lights on the mower while we stayed out back and killed a 6-pack. It was pitch black outside - and the guy commented how well the two LED clusters lit up the area around us while we jaw-flapped that 6-pack down ... Funny - now that i'm talking this through - we were not inundated with mosquito's. Hmmmm - I wonder ... QUESTION: -------------- I am however curious about your new mower - why do you want the lights off ?...See MoreHuskee w/ B&S 12hp runs then dies
Comments (23)***"added benefit of not drowning the engine, if that IS what is happening."***"first the plug: The pictures were taken BEFORE running it at all, after it had sat from the night before"*** OK, so, "sat from the night before"??? Does that mean you parked the tractor immediately after running, while the engine was "hot from use"??? OR you had been trying unsuccessfully to get the engine started and running....prior to it having sat through the night??? This detail is quite important because: If you stopped the engine while "hot from use", there "should not" have been ANY wetness (unless from oil, but you say engine does not smoke) or "sheen" visible on the plug. The heat from use would have left the plug completely dry and any soot or carbon (from rich mix) would have been "dry and powdery". But, on the other hand, if you had been repeatedly cranking the engine (unproductively), and then just decided "to heck with this!!!! I'm done for today and I'll come back tomorrow"........and then next AM pulled the plug and photo'ed it, I'm afraid we still can't say for sure if your carb is "drowning" your engine, or if the wet condition of plug is simply from all the unproductive cranking. I'm thinking that "drowning" might already be taking place, and may be contributing to your present problem. One thing kssue should do at this point is to "pull" the oil dipstick and: (1)Smell the oil for the presence of gasoline. With so much unproductive cranking of the engine, plus the indicated "over rich" condition of the carb, even if the engine has not been "drowned", it certainly has been "flooded", and gasoline "might" be present in the fuel.(2) Do a "runny test". In the "old days", if a mechanic suspected gasoline contamination of the crankcase lube oil, he might perform a SWAG "runny test" by pulling the oil dipstick and then touch the wet end of the dipstick to one of his fingertip or palm callouses. Then he would observe how the oil "dispersed" from the central drop, into the swirls and whorls of the friction ridges in the skin. If the oil was thinned or contaminated with gasoline, he would see a relatively rapid spread of "color" into the network of tiny grooves that are the "trough" counterpart of the friction ridges of skin that comprise our "fingerprints". If the oil was not thinned, the drop of oil would tend to remain in the form of the single drop that was deposited on the hand. I no longer suggest that anyone perform the "runny test" in the manner of putting suspected oil on human skin. A similar test can be done using a piece of "unwaxed" or "unfinished" cardboard. This "plain ole cardboard" is the kind most packaging boxes are made of. All you need is a clean, dry piece of this cardboard. Using the oil dipstick, deposit one or two drops onto the cardboard. After the oil is put onto the cardboard, lay the cardboard on a flat surface, oily side up. Use a watch or other timekeeper to measure elapsed time. If the oil is very thinned (high gasoline content), the entire amount of oil will be absorbed into the cardboard in a matter of 3 minutes or less. The less gasoline in the oil, the slower the drop will be absorbed. Because there is no way to control all the possible variables of this test (moisture content of specific cardboard, type of cardboard, ambient temperature, etc.), it helps to also use an identical (or the same) piece of cardboard and test some other "oil samples" from different sources to compare the time it takes for the oil to absorb. Even that will be inconclusive unless the oil samples originally were the same product. But, if you use a couple drops of suspect oil, a couple drops from a different engine (believed to be ok), and a couple drops from a container of fresh, unused oil, you can get a pretty good idea. When I do this, I use a pencil to "graph" the growth of the "halo" that will spread outward from the center of the initial drop. Using the "timer", I mark the progress of the "halo formation" at one minute intervals. If you plan to test other sample for comparison, do them all in about the same hour using the same source of cardboard. Realistically speaking, the "runny test" is kinda "long and drawn out" for using to determine if oil is fit for service or not. It mainly serves as a way to get an indicator of gas in the oil AT THE TIME OF THE TEST only. In the case of the engine in this thread, I would probably be inclined to just say, "I don't know if I have gas in the oil, but with all that's been going on, there should be some gas in the oil. Therefore, I'm going to install the inline fuel shutoff valve and then change the oil for "peace of mind". ***"first the plug: The pictures were taken BEFORE running it at all, after it had sat from the night before"*** Oh, you mentioned "Have read of that under some other post as well but forget the circumstances...too many hours of sifting thru posts". In response to that, I am going to create a new thread to outline a "trick" I use a lot to "streamline" researching and saving found information. I'll probably come back to this thread and post a "cross link" to the new thread as well....See MoreWhy does Bluestar range require dedicated circuit?
Comments (16)On the Bluestar, the ignitors act both to start the fire and to sense that the flame is still present. Since your problems are all on the right hand side, here is what I would check: Remove the right side grates and bowls, front and rear. This will reveal the front and rear burner burner assemblies. Now, dim the lights in the kitchen and try to light the right REAR burner. You should see sparking at all the burners except for the right rear, the one that won't light. But do you see anything sparking down underneath along the wire feeding the rear burner? With all valves off, reposition the wire, making sure the bullet connector is pressed tightly together. Inspect the ignitor itself. Is it cracked? If it is, the ignitor spark will emerge too low on the burner body to ignite the flame. When one burner alone won't light, suspect the ignitor (fouled by spills or boilovers or cracked) or the orange wire feeding it. You can easily determine if the ignitor is faulty by swapping it out with one of the known good ignitors. The ignitors are held in place by a small Phillips head machine screw on the underside of the burner. The leads just unplug from the feeds by a simple pull-apart bullet connector. Swap the ignitors front and rear. If the front is the one that won't light now, then the the problem is the ignitor. If the front works still and the rear still doesn't, the problem is in the wire leading from the ignition module to the burner or further upstream in the module itself (very unlikely). As far as the range continuing to click even after the front right burner is ignited, check the position of the ignitor to insure that the electrode of the ignitor is sitting in or very close to the flame. With everything cool, loosen the screw holding the ignitor in position slightly and then bias the ignitor so that the electrode is as close to being in the flame as possible. You can also, (very G-E-N-T-L-Y) take a pair of needle nose pliers and bend the electrode in and down a little bit so that it is closer to the flame. If the electrode is bathed in flame the clicking should stop once the burner ignites. If it doesn't the problem will have to be traced back towards the ignition module, likely by a service call. But chances are just positioning the ignitor probe a litte bit closer to the flame will fix that. And if you keep having problems with a single ignitor call Bluestar and have them send you a replacement and a spare....See Moremownie
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