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Note to self: Liquid Fence bottle leaks....

8 years ago

Do not wear cloth gloves when spraying!

(Um....yea that's me who stinks like something took a whizz on me...)

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gardenweed_z6a
8 years ago
Eeeewww!
a2zmom
8 years ago
Yum.

I use Deer Solution which smells like cinnamon so even if I spray myself, it's not bad. (And it works - not one nibble on my lilies or my hostas and I am three blocks from the county park. There are deer everywhere.)
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Excuse me, but I forgot the part about mixing in a little dishwashing soap (Dawn or equiv,). I looked up Deer Stopper on Amazon and they do claim a heavy rain will not wash it off and they also recommend application once a month. Link-Deer Stopper Of the 5 reviews one recounts spraying all her trees and plants and ten minutes later seeing 5 deer munching in her yard.....and in their description of plot saver ribbon they state ' Reapply PLOTSAVER deer repellent approximately every 30-day until the plot is developed and you want the deer in the area. ' ....and from the 2013 Young Naturalist of the Year winner we have a study of commercial and individual ingredients commonly used as deterrents. "Results I assigned values of 0, 0.5 and 1 to the daily results in order to calculate an average effectiveness for each repellent (Figures 13-14). In my experiment, the putrescent egg formulation was the best white-tailed deer deterrent, which supported the hypothesis and answered the research question. Putrescent eggs scored an average effectiveness rate of 0.91, followed closely by dried blood at 0.88. The least-effective products were the soap and human hair, with rates of 0.22 each, and the control cob was eaten 84 percent of the time. Clearly, the commercial products were more effective than the homemade mixtures, and they were all more effective than not using any product at all " Award winning study My suggestion was not 'silly optimism' as you suggest. In fact I might be tempted to accuse you of not doing your homework before being so negative. Purified eggs are a good, cost-effective deterrent and there is a good reason it is a basic ingredient in most commercial deterrents including Deer Stopper which also has a type of sulfur and Capsaicin (ingredient in peppers) as well. Pepper is a common ingredient of buyer-in of "natural stuff" that can be found by researching legitimate sources by those not too lazy to educate themselves and those who do not reject things out of hand as 'crap', thinking they are smarter than those who actually try to educate themselves. Reread this and do a little research on your own, if at first you don't understand the results from people who have actually tested the theories scientifically and don't think they are smart enough to reject ideas without knowing the facts. Deer Stopper seems to be an effective deterrent which can be fairly closely duplicated with natural ingredients at far less cost. Does it last longer? Maybe. Is it more effective than a home made spray, evidently. Is it worth the extra cost for the convenience and the incremental increase from 0.91 ( 91%? ) experienced with egg to ? ? Not to me, but maybe to you. Have a nice day freeman. Jon
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diggerdee zone 6 CT
8 years ago
Yeah, don't you hate it when it dribbles down your fingers every time you pull the trigger? Yuck.

Although, that's nothing to the time when the wind sprang up just as I pulled the trigger and the whole spray came back at me - on my clothes, in my hair, in my face, in my mouth. Ugh. I was at a friend's house/garden, so I had to drive home and then my car stunk for days. I swear, even though I took a shower immediately when I got home, I could smell it in my hair that night, and on my pillow the next night. Yuck.

I always joke that that stuff will not only keep the deer out of your garden, it'll keep *everyone* out of your garden! :)

Dee
Ruth_MI
8 years ago
I burst out laughing when I read this title. Just last week I had the nozzle portion pop out of my sprayer, under pressure, and coat me with the stuff. Lovely.

A2zmom - how long have you been using the Deer Solution, and did you use Liquid Fence before? I'd like to try it, but the deer are SO bad here (especially after one neighbor fed them during the winter), and I'm afraid to stop using Liquid Fence.
karin_mt
8 years ago
Ugh! I usually try to spray Liquid Fence when I'm about to take a shower anyway. That's mandatory afterward. But even worse if it's leaky or windy. Dee, LOL, that sounds dreadful! I bet the deer left your car alone though, right?
a2zmom
8 years ago
I've never used liquid fence. I used to use something else that made me gag until I was talking to someone who works at my local nursery (they are a huge wholesale/retail place so they know their stuff) and started using Deer Solution.

That was 5-6 years ago and I've never had a problem since. And I know the deer are there, I often see hoof prints in my mulch paths. I don't spray everything, just the stuff I assume they like so sometimes I get burned. One year I went out to dinner and my just about to bloom campanula was eaten to the ground when I returned. First and last time they ever touched that plant.
duluthinbloomz4
8 years ago
I've used Liquid Fence in the past - living close to the edge of an in-city nature preserve. Problem was exacerbated by an oldster in the neighborhood who constantly filled bird feeders. Time was I'd have to start the spritzing program as the usual deer targeted plants first started emerging.

Believe one of the coldest snowiest winters in our history must have seriously culled the herd since I've not had one in the yard so far this season. And I was on their regular dining route ultimately losing hosta, balloon flowers, lilies, day lilies, etc. I couldn't let the application program down - or the deer would get used to the product - never figured out quite which exactly.

For those of you in the middle tier of states - as far West as Wyoming and East to Ohio, Menard's has a good product called "Deer Stopper" which has a mint added to the usual Liquid Fence formulation. Less expensive, totally pleasant to use and as effective.
DiggingInTheDirt
8 years ago
My issue with using liquid fence is that the spray nozzle clogs between uses, and the only way I can get it open is to remove the nozzle and hold it under a strong force of water. My neighbor has the same issue, and it has happened with multiple containers. If it weren't for that, I would continue using it. But it just becomes too labor intensive.

I'm moving to wire cages and garlic pins with some degree of success.
lam702
8 years ago
Of all the deer repellents I've used, Liquid Fence is the most foul smelling, hands down. Deer Off works just as well but is not quite as pungent. I do find that Woodchuck Stop, the stuff in the red bottle, works for deer and woodchucks so that is what I use now. The smell is not bad either, has some cinnamon in it too.
a2zmom
8 years ago
Deer Off! Yes, that's what I used to use. And you say Liquid Fence smells worse? Ugh. I'll stick to my nice cinnamony spray.
mxk3 z5b_MI
Original Author
8 years ago
Dee - that reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where somebody BO'd Jerry's car LOL!

I'll have to try some of the other products mention when I go through the Liquid Fence. It does seem to working, though -- haven't noticed any chomped-off coneflowers (the woodchucks LOVE those!) or worse - my beloved Oriental lilies!
katob Z6ish, NE Pa
8 years ago
Some awesome visuals here! Thanks for giving me a nice laugh

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