DA 'The Nun' and similar roses
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Comments (11)I looked at the new varieties that DA was introducing, but the only one that looked interesting was the white sport of The Mayflower. All the others were some version of pink, and there are plenty of pink roses out there to choose from. The only one that I am interested in getting that is new is Lady of Shallot. I would like to see how it compares with Summer Song, Pat Austin, and Lady Emma Hamilton. If someone has Lady of Shallot, please speak up on how it does. Pat Austin is a nice, clear orange. Lady Emma is a softer orange on a smaller bush and has a nice fragrance. My first crop of flowers off Summer Song were not as dark as the pictures, but that can change with time and plant maturity. So, on that one, I will wait to see what they do. Other Austins I would like to add to my already severely overstuffed garden are another The Prince, another Lady Emma Hamilton, English Garden, and Sir Edward Elgar. Other than that, I have plenty and am out of room. Ones I am not impressed with for one reason or another are Tea Clipper for its dirty dishwater-colored flowers and no repeat bloom, Sweet Juliet for its all bush no flowers lifestyle, Fisherman's Friend for its excessive growth habit and not enough flowers especially because the ones it has are fairly large and fragrant, Ludlow Castle for its lack of repeat bloom, Rosemoor for its poor performance and very small flowers if it has any, and Port Sunlight for its mini-flora-sized flowers so far although its color has improved this year....See More'the pilgrim'
Comments (9)Jumbojimmy 'Is the pilgrim fragrant'? The pilgrim is one of those roses that have cycles to their perfume. The cells that release the fragrance being probably on the upper and lower part of the petal for this variety. It is fragrant early in its opening with a citrus/tea fragrance and then later (two or so days) with a citrus/old rose fragrance. The last days when the petals start to brown on the edges gives off a stringent odor more pure citrus and somewhat remenicient of 'lectric shave'. When combined with other roses in a vase, I actually think the pilgrim's fragrance enhances the others, having the effect of making it and the other rose fragrances stronger....See MoreOk guys I need more help with the DA roses!
Comments (21)Here's my own perspective from an entirely different climate - fwiw. I love Young Lycidas! I'd read some bad reviews but really wanted the color, and it was my surprise favorite of the year. Yes it's lax, but I find that can be graceful. It has personality. Some have suggested Darcey as an alternative and I'll agree she's an absolutely wonderful rose, tidier and more compact if that suits your garden design better. I'm discovering that my favorite DAs are those which do not have thick canes and vey upright growth. I don't want my English roses to look like Grandifloras. Not that I hate modern roses... For those with similar tastes, I will offer that so far I'm not pleased with the growth of the Lady Gardener. Too erect. Maybe maturity will round it out. Concerning the "modern" character of Sir John B, I haven't figured out yet. Mine have begun as low, broad, sturdy branching plants. The foliage is a bit shiny, but not the shiny plastic look of some Kordes roses, for example. The color is bright, but not garish. Deeper than bright. Medium pompon blooms with good substance. They're both rain and heat tolerant and last a long while without fading. I think it's a rose that could make a nice bridge between modern and old style roses. I grew a Hyde Hall hedge that didn't work out. It had dramatically uneven growth, much winter die back, and terrible back spot. It might like a drier or more temperate climate. Beautiful, plentiful blooms, very little fragrance. Sorry for no pics, my hard drive crashed recently :(...See MoreJust for Fun #6 - Name these red DA roses!
Comments (42)What a delight to see even more beautiful roses! Thank you all for sharing. And the phone booth to boot :-) love it! Ann, re: 'Slater's Crimson China' It was one of the four original chinas brought to Europe that gave remontancy to OGRs and, in the case of "Slater's", red color too. I always have a special feeling when I see such historically important roses, also 'Old Blush' or 'Autumn Damask' and others that gave us not only so many descendants but new classes of roses too. HMF lists more than 14,000 cultivars as descendants from this rose, many of course removed from it by several and more generations. 'Cramoisi Superieur', probably my favorite china, is its seedling. That said, it was "lost" for some time and then "found" again. I put these in quotations because there is apparently more than one contender for the original 'Slater's china' and I believe it's still the subject of some controversy. The photo I posted is typical of every 'Slater's crimson china' that I've seen in Texas and Louisiana (I used to live in Texas): semi-double and double flowers, scarlet red that can sometimes turn more crimson depending on the weather and season, some with white streaks in the middle (not on all blooms though) and yellow center. I think these are the closest to what I've seen on illustration plates from the 19th & early 20th century for this rose like in Ellen Willmott's 'The Genus Rosa' book: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.291126 It's a smallish shrub and looks very dainty....See MoreKrista_5NY
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