John Deere LX176 blown fuse / ignition unit
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Comments (15)Best that you test the wire at the PTO clutch connector for voltage when the PTO switch is turned on. Do this with the key on, engine NOT RUNNING. If you do not have voltage at the clutch when the PTO is turned on, your PTO switch may be bad or there could be a broken wire between the PTO switch and the PTO clutch. If you DO HAVE voltage at the PTO clutch wire connector but the PTO clutch will not engage.......your PTO clutch has likely failed. You might even get lucky and find that wire broken or unplugged....See MoreJohn Deere 445 won't start
Comments (2)1st... Did you check the ground cable from the battery where it attaches to the motor/frame? Remove and clean the terminal with a wire brush? Could be a bad solinoid not making contact to the starter, are you sure the 'click' is the solinoid and not a safety relay? Get a test lamp, connect clip to ground or neg batt terminal, have someone turn the key to start while you touch the small terminal on the starter solinoid... if test light lights up power is getting from the battery through the fuse, safety interlocks and ignition switch. If no light then something is not allowing the power to flow to the solinoid. Next test if you are careful, get a in-line fuse holder and connect a wire to the plus + battery terminal, 5-10 amp fuse in line, disconect the small wire (nut or 1/4" quick connect terminal) and touch the other end of the wire to the solinoid terminal, keeping arms, legs, hair and other appendages clear of the motor. That should cause the solinoid to engage and spin the starter. Yes/No?? Last test, again real carefull to NOT touch the frame, surrounding metal etc... you could take a jumper cable and connect the two Big bolts on the solinoid if you can reach them, that should spin the starter even if the solinoid is bad. If it Does Not spin, then either the starter is bad or the 'brushes' are worn down and not making contact. Sometimes a little 'thump' with a hammer handle will jar things loose and you will get one-two more starts out of it. Please post back if you do these tests, AFTER each one! they get progresivly more hazardous to both man and machine, so it's best to do one at a time and get feedback before proceding to the next step....See MoreJohn Deere 445 No Start
Comments (3)Is there a bank of fuses on the board? Trying to dissect the info in the manual without seeing the tractor (I haven't picked up the 445 I just bought) isn't easy. It looks like there are a number of fuses as well as fuseable links. I'm sorry if I'm not being much help but I'm trying!...See MoreJOhn Deere 425 won't even crank
Comments (15)Well, you had to ask. To fully grasp the concept, one needs to have an understanding of basic electrical principles. Typically, the water hose analogy is used to demonstrate the basic principles. The supply water plumbing of a house is thought of as a battery. The hydrant valve would be a switch. The garden hose would be the conductor (battery cables) carrying water (current) to a sprinkler head (starter). The standing water pressure of the house plumbing (in PSI) is analogous to "battery power" (measured as voltage). In this comparison, opening the hydrant valve allows water to flow through the hose to the sprinkler, causing it to spin. In an automotive setting, operating the solenoid allows electrical current to flow through the battery cables to the starter, causing it to spin. Various factors affect the performance of an electrical circuit much the same as variables in plumbing will affect the spinning sprinkler. If you reduce the PSI of the house water supply, you expect the sprinkler to spin more slowly, similarly a reduction of battery voltage will result in a slower spinning starter. If you change from a 3/4" diameter hose to a 3/8" diameter hose, the sprinkler will spin slower. If you change from the OEM battery cable size to some wires half their size, the battery will spin slower. If you change the sprinkler out for one that is hard to turn, it will spin slower than the sprinkler that is free to spin. The same goes for a starter which is sticky or binding. The analogies described are very similar except that in electrical systems you will not be able to make changes or affect the components without suffering some serious consequences (to the components). The term "Amperes" is a tag used in describing the electrical flow (current) of an electrical circuit.. A battery does not "deliver" amps to the starter as though it were offering something "unsolicited". It is more like the starter is DEMANDING the battery give it the power it needs to turn the engine. So the starter is really at the mercy of the battery as to what it receives. Batteries are rated by their capability to furnish power described as "X number of Amps". But that rating is only true if the battery has a full charge and the battery is new. The analogy between water pressure and voltage is pretty accurate. In plumbing, pressure of a specific value will push a specific volume of water through a specific diameter conduit having a specific value of resistance to flow. In electrical systems, a specific voltage value will push a specific volume of electrical current through specific size conductors where there is a specific electrical resistance. The consequence to be faced in electrical systems where the "specifics" become "imbalanced on the low side" is heat production. It requires adequate voltage to push sufficient amps (in response to current draw) through a conducting circuit resulting in normal operation of the circuit components as it was designed for. Consequence of low voltage: If you cut the voltage in half but leave the other factors the same...........the result will be heat production due to the voltage not being adequate to push those amps through the resisting component. Consequence of insufficient amp capacity of battery: This is what we face when we are dealing with an old battery (anything that is not brand new). Amp capacity of a battery is relevant to its physical size (plate surface area) and the state or condition of the battery. Imagine two 12 volt batteries. One of the batteries fits a yard tractor, the other fits a large diesel engine agriculture tractor. Both have a voltage level of 12, but the amp capacities are vastly different between the two. The starters of each of those tractors is matched to the amp capacity of the batteries (and vice versa). Basically and fundamentally speaking, battery amp capacity is chosen for an application with the goal of keeping VOLTAGE DROP to a minimum when the starter load is connected to the battery. If you connect the yard tractor starter to the yard tractor battery you can expect perhaps a 3 to 4 volt drop in battery voltage after the starter begins spinning the engine, and that is acceptable. If.....you connect the yard tractor battery to the agriculture tractor battery, you might possibly observe a battery voltage drop of .3 to .4. But...........if you connect the starter of the big tractor to the yard tractor battery you could realistically expect the battery voltage to drop to zero. You can also expect the yard tractor battery to explode because that kind of load would be the same as connecting a battery cable between the posts of the small battery........in essence "a dead short". The explosion is the result of the voltage drop causing catastrophic heat build up and flash melting of the plates inside the battery case creating a steam explosion as the electrolyte vaporizes.............combined with ignition of the explosive battery gasses. Now back to the job of trimming a lawn. When a battery is "old", its amp capacity is less than when new, and so will not be able to meet the current draw requirements of the starter when asked to. This will cause the battery voltage to drop, further reducing the ability of the battery to supply the needed amps. When a battery is under charged (low voltage level) there is insufficient "pressure" to push the required amps through the starter, so heat develops quickly throughout the circuit. Subjecting the starter to a low voltage/high amp draw scenario on a regular basis will lead to cumulative damage to the starter as well as other links in the circuit (key switch, starter solenoid, cables/wires/connectors) Always buy the largest amp capacity battery you can get that will fit in your "whatever" , keep it fully charged,........and you will have a happy life....See Moremownie
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