Squirrels ate all of the new shoots on my climbing rose bush
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Comments (70)Lucky, That was me who did the Bon Bon test. I wholeheartedly agree a test of one experimental specimen and one control is not conclusive. However, my thought is it's better to draw a conclusion from a test of one than a field test where the causative effects of the test are even more spurious. I'm thinking of "water witching" as an analogy. People swear by it and stories abound how so and so drilled a well an there was no water then so and so witched for water and "voila" the well that was witched was a gusher. It's not a completely fair comparison because there may be some science behind the possibility Bon Bons poison squirrels, whereas there is no science behind water witching. But my point is the means of observation is the same and tells us even less I think than an experiment with one "n" and one control. To me, there seems to be other supporting evidence that Bon Bons don't work. I've read some cases of suicide attempts with Plaster of Paris (human attempts, not squirrels) and it took fairly large amounts of Plaster of Paris to cause gastric blockage, and they ate it straight. I don't recall anyone actually died from it because the pain was so extensive, they sought medical treatment. Additionally, there was someone on this forum who posted he placed rat bait around his orchard and found numerous squirrel carcasses afterward (if memory serves, it was something like 13) from eating the bait, which is something that seems to be missing from the Bon Bon accounts. I'm not advocating one way or the other using rat bait for squirrels, just commenting that there is a significant difference between the two accounts. If some credible person were to report the same results with Bon Bons as has been reported with rat bait (i.e. large numbers of carcasses) then I would definitely re-think my opinion of the possible efficacy of Bon Bons. However, as it stands now I suspect not only are Bon Bons safe from secondary poisonings, but safe for squirrels as well. I do wonder if there could be some conditioning effect with the use of Bon Bons. There is a lot we don't know about squirrel behavior. Is it possible Bon Bons give the creatures enough of a belly ache that they avoid feeding in that area thereafter? Sort of like an electric fence can condition livestock? I don't know....See MoreHow to identify a regular rose bush vs climbing?
Comments (22)Star jasmine will completely cover a fence. It will appear to be a hedge. This will take a good amount of water, but so would a rose. If you want another rose option, 'Secret Garden Musk Climber' would probably be faster than 'Iceberg' to cover a fence. Blooms maybe even more than 'Iceberg', and fragrant too. Blooms much better than 'Sally Holmes'. Other vines that will cover a chain link fence are Lavender Trumpet vine, Clytostoma callistegioides, or another trumpet vine called 'Tangerine Beauty', Bignonia capreolata. These are faster and somewhat easier than Star Jasmine, and with a longer blooming period. It's a good idea to cut vines like these completely to the ground every 5 or 6 years so they don't get too woody and leafless at the bottom. As much as I love roses, they are not the solution for every spot in the garden. Look at the star jasmine in the upper left hand corner of the photo. See the fence? No? That's what it does. Same for the other vines. Thanks for that link, roseseek....See MoreCan my old untrained climbing rose be trained?
Comments (2)The good thing about roses is that they are always putting out new canes and you can train them easier than old ones. This is true! Back when I was a teenager, in the 1970's, I inherited a 1950's book on growing roses (can't presently remember the authors' names, but they were serious rosarians). In that book there were three photos of a Harrison's Yellow rose (a beautiful early spring, once-blooming yellow shrub rose) they rehabilitated. In the first picture it is a sprawling mess that has few flowers. In the second picture they tied all the main canes together and pegged them low to the ground, away from the crown of the bush, and consequently a whole new set of primary canes were shooting vertically from the bases of those old canes. In the third picture the old canes were gone and the new canes were blooming like crazy. It was obvious they had completely rejuvenated the bush by the simple technique of tying the old canes collectively to the ground and consequently stimulating the shrub to put out an entirely new set of major canes for them to work with. The nice thing about a big rose is that as long as the growing conditions are to its liking you absolutely can rehabilitate it. Doing so requires a certain amount of sensitivity and expertise, but that can be learned....See MoreRabbits ate bare root rose new growth. Any hope for them?
Comments (7)I have quite a few "rabbit circles" that I made out of two fencing materials bought at Tractor Supply. Both are green-vinyl-coated material. One is 24" wide, with a grid size 2x3. The other is chicken wire. For lilies I make a circle that is 24" tall of the 2x3 grid, and then attach chicken wire to the bottom 10-12". For roses I cut the 24" material down the middle to make pieces that will give me circles of a 12" height, and the chicken wire is affixed to the entire 12" height of those circles. Regardless of height, I cut off the end piece of wire so the bottom of the circle is wire "pokers" that go into the soil. I had made quite a number of these circles years ago, back when chewed-off rose canes would litter the ground in the spring. More recently, the people behind me got a cat who patrols my yard for hours every day, and I never see rabbits or chipmunks anymore. Just this week I bought a pack of cup hooks so I can store my rabbit circles on the ceiling of the garage above my overhead door. (I may leave circles around the lilies, especially in the rear of my 20-foot deep border. Also I am thinking perhaps I could use the circles as part of winter protection around roses.)...See Moreyork_rose
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