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ATTN: Celeste, and anyone else knowing about these ramblers

14 years ago

Hello, Celeste, I have talked with you on the web before and you were very helpful. While doing some research on the ramblers Violette, and Russeliana(old cottage rose or old Spanish rose) I saw pictures of both of these on HMF with your name. I wondered if you still had them and if you could tell me how they do, particularly Violette, as I have seen several different zones listed for it.How big do they get, are they healthy, anything else you might know about them? Thank you,

roseberri

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celeste/NH
14 years ago
Hi....good to talk to you again.

I do grow 'Violette', but the photo of 'Russeliana' from HMF was one I took at the Montreal Botanical Garden a few years back. I do think that 'Russeliana' will be hardy for you, though, since they grow it up there. I just got a baby one of it, but it will be a while before it is a rambler, that's for sure.

My 'Violette' started as just a teensy cutting that I rooted. It took a few years to get going but that's typical of ownroot roses in my climate and its in a partially-shaded spot that no one else wanted to grow in.
Mine is considerably hardy but can have some cane loss in a severe winter....but mild winters like this past one it had no winterkill to speak of. I love it because in my soil it is a deep, dark purple...darker than a Concord grape. Mine stays healthy and disease-free without any spraying, but I don't know how it would be somewhere else.
A bonus is that its not a thorny rose, so when you work around it or wander too close it doesn't stick you.

I have heard that Russeliana is often found in old cemeteries so my guess is that its pretty hardy and easy to grow. Any roses I have found growing in those conditions haven't had much care or culture and survive because they are a really good, tough old rose.

I think either of these roses would make you happy.

Celeste
rjlinva
14 years ago
In my zone, I started with a rooted cutting of Ruselliana about 5" tall, and in its first year it got about 6' x 6' or more. This is a vigorous rose for me.

Violette does well for me in a no spray situation. It's not perfect, but I find it good.

Robert
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roseberri, z6
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Thank you both for the great information! I just love these forums and all the help people give. Roseberri

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