ID of White Blend Rose from Argentina
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Comments (3)Hello Wesley! First of all THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your reply; I have posted this message in many forums of Garden Web, as well as other Rose Forums (the Spanish Forum InfojardÃn, Peter Beales Discussion Forum and several websites such as HMF and Ashdown Roses) but I have not received any appropiate identification yet. In fact I have been trying to identify this rose since last year. That is why I have many pictures and detailed information. What I mean with "Bush Type" is that the rose grows and forms a dense bush, in reference to the growht habit of the plant but I think it may be a very primitive HT. Some time ago this year, Bruna Talodini, a retired professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology from Italy who is pretty interested in roses and in their history, was trying to find some information on the firm Gaetano Bonfiglioli e figlio, a breeder/nursery who worked in Bologna (the town where he lives in Italy) in XIX-XX century. Among his production there are ´Variegata di Bologna´, ´Clementina Carbonieri´, ´Garisenda´ and other lost or almost lost roses. Going through papers at the Camera di Commercio of Bologna he managed to find the story of the firm and, interestingly, he found that it had commercial interests in South America, in particular in Argentina. From 1920 to 1937 Enrico Bonfiglioli and many of his staff went here many time. So it may well be that, besides rose from french nurseries, in Argentina there might be also roses from Bonfiglioli, possibly lost roses of this firm (´Ricordo di Giosuè Carducci´, for example). So this could be another research line to take into account, but I am really confused and it has been many years and I still cannot identify it properly Anyway, THANKS again for your time and interest and keep in touch! Mariano...See MoreID of White Blend Rose from Argentina
Comments (2)Dear esteemed members, After more than 5 years, I am pretty sure that the pink blend rose is the white sport of “Madame Caroline Testout”, HT “Admiral Duwey” (1899). Although I have just received some pictures from the Sangerhausen, they were enough for me to identify my unknown rose as this old “Madame Caroline Testout” white sport. I would possibly discard some other related roses, such as “Frau Dr. Krüger” since it has golden-yellow undertones, borne mostly solitary and occasional repeat later in the season. My rose does not have golden-yellow undertones, usually blooms in clusters and has a profuse fall bloom. HT “Grossherzogin Victoria Melitta” has white or white blend flowers with a yellow center and a strong fragrance, while the unknown rose has not any yellow coloring and none to mild fragrance. “Mme Gustave Metz” could have been another possibility but it is too pink, at least in my humble opinion. Furthermore, it has a long pointed form while the unknown rose is more globular. “La Favourite” was also a globular HP, related with “Mme. Caroline Testout” and its descendants, with globular form and it is a good fall bloomer (like my rose), but it has a deep rose color that turns soft pink as the rose ages. Having said that, I am quite sure that the found rose from that old garden in BA is HT “Admiral Duwey” (John H. Taylor, 1899), although some more pictures would help me to confirm this properly. Any contribution would be highly appreciated. Greetings from Buenos Aires!...See MoreID of white blended rose (with pictures and ID card)
Comments (5)ROSELVR THANK YOU for taking the time to "re-write" my post. I am new on it and it was my first time starting a post and uploading a picture here, so, as you might have noticed, I had some problems with it! I also was thinking about Botrytis, so it is great that you mentioned it too. Once more, THANKS a lot! PETALOID THANK YOU too, because I think you have identified exactly the rose I posted. I also thought about ´Mrs. Foley Hobbs´ (1910) and ´Souvenir de Pierre Notting´ (1891). There are in HMF many pictures that are extremely similar, but the pictures of ´Mlle. De Sombreuil´ from Jerod are almost the same than mines. If you have some time, please check them anytime and tell me what you think about these other two varieties. ps.: by the way, have you seen the other white blended rose I have posted to identify?. Maybe you are lucky again! :D...See MoreID of another white blend rose
Comments (17)Dear esteemed members, After more than 5 years, I am pretty sure that the pink blend rose is the white sport of âÂÂMadame Caroline TestoutâÂÂ, HT âÂÂAdmiral Duweyâ (1899). Although I have just received some pictures from the Sangerhausen, they were enough for me to identify my unknown rose as this old âÂÂMadame Caroline Testoutâ white sport. I would possibly discard some other related roses, such as âÂÂFrau Dr. Krügerâ since it has golden-yellow undertones, borne mostly solitary and occasional repeat later in the season. My rose does not have golden-yellow undertones, usually blooms in clusters and has a profuse fall bloom. HT âÂÂGrossherzogin Victoria Melittaâ has white or white blend flowers with a yellow center and a strong fragrance, while the unknown rose has not any yellow coloring and none to mild fragrance. âÂÂMme Gustave Metzâ could have been another possibility but it is too pink, at least in my humble opinion. Furthermore, it has a long pointed form while the unknown rose is more globular. âÂÂLa Favouriteâ was also a globular HP, related with âÂÂMme. Caroline Testoutâ and its descendants, with globular form and it is a good fall bloomer (like my rose), but it has a deep rose color that turns soft pink as the rose ages. Having said that, I am quite sure that the found rose from that old garden in BA is HT âÂÂAdmiral Duweyâ (John H. Taylor, 1899), although some more pictures would help me to confirm this properly. Any contribution (pictures) or confirmation would be highly appreciated. Greetings from Buenos Aires!...See Morenanito
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