Questions about watering Iceberg roses, Lavender in SoCal
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Talk me out of (or into) a Brilliant Pink Iceberg Tree Rose
Comments (29)Hi Cath, it's entirely possible, though I've not read of it. I do know Judge Henry Fonda, who lived in Mar Vista by Santa Monica and operated a small nursery at his home for several years, unsuccessfully tried Cl. Mlle. Cecile Brunner for standards. Nothing took for him and he theorized it was due to "genetic incompatability". I know Ralph Moore brought in the rose known as Moore's South African OGR with the intention of trying it as a stock, but it didn't work, either. He stated the wood was too hard and the bark refused to "slip", lift easily enough for buds to be inserted. I have no information whether he tried the chip budding technique Burling uses or not. With as many thousands who have played with roses over just the past century alone, I'm sure someone may have had your idea, I just don't have knowledge of or information about whether it has been tried nor whether it worked or not. I do know many things have been tried. A friend received Austins from Hortico back in the eighties and nineties whose suckers were definitely Bride's Dream, which Hortico flatly refused, but that's what grew from the suckers on those roses. I've tried quite a few things myself, including Cardinal Hume (which works splendidly), and Festival Pink, my solid pink sport of Festival Fanfare, the striped sport of Fred Loads. That one worked pretty well and developed very thick, nearly self supporting trunks, but sun burned very badly in my climate which made it less than suitable. I had previously found this in the 1920 ARS annual about someone in Florida budding Druschki on Mme. Plantier, though it's been theorized by others what was meant was probably Odorata or Fortuniana. Who can say for sure? If you have the rose in question and want to try it, the information would be quite interesting to report back to us here on the forum. Who knows? Perhaps you might stumble on the next great discovery? Good luck! Kim...See MoreSoCal Rare Rose Auction Nov 16-17 2013
Comments (40)Beth, I noticed an outbreak of similarly coloured petunias appearing all over the UK (gold and maroon) which caused me to literally avert my eyes on walking past. As a rule, I am a lover of bright colours (no beige in my house or wardrobe) but am strictly old school when it comes to roses - white or pink (or palest yellow at a pinch). Course, that does not apply to the dahlia beds, nor the many rows of cutting gladioli or luridly coloured annuals (apart from said petunias) in my allotment. Particularly enjoying a combo of orange, purple, deep red and acid green.......just not in the roses. And yeah, striped roses, not even pink and white, really do it for me but I was agog at the variety available in the US....See MoreNew to SoCal with rose questions: Teas (not HT) ?
Comments (20)I live in northern San Diego County, about 20 miles inland, at 1700 feet elevation, and most of the roses I grow are old roses, and many of them are teas. The Antique Rose Emporium is the place I've obtained many of my roses recently because they send such large plants that always seem to do well for me. In my area the roses do best ordered in the cool winter season so that they have time to acclimate to the hot summer temperatures. I grow few Austins but Bishop's Castle and Evelyn have done very well for me. My favorite teas right now are Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux, Baronne Henriette de Snoy, Madame Lambard and Mrs. B.R. Cant. There are many more excellent ones, so a lot depends on what appeals to you. In addition to the teas, which as already stated can get quite large, polyanthas are smaller, with smaller flowers, which can be a very nice contrast. I love Marie Pavie and International Herald Tribune (pictured below) but there are many others. The Chinas are equally rewarding, and there are smaller and large varieties in that group. The Bourbon roses, such as Souvenir de la Malmaison, are also very rewarding to grow. In our climate there are so many rose classes that do well, and you may find many more that you like than you have room for. I'd also suggest posting on the Antique Rose Forum (where I mostly hang out) if it's the teas and other old varieties you're interested in, although the Austin roses are also discussed there. Please click on the pictures to enlarge them... Madame Lambard...See Morewhite roses: iceberg, bolero or flower carpet?
Comments (58)Hi, I am late to the thread but hopefully still be able to get some help here. We just moved into a house n the SF Bay Area - Zone 9b where the previous owner planted about 12 young icebergs in the front yard under the shades of 3 large magnolias. I was told she probergated her own roses. its late Oct. and although there a few blioms ans new buds forming, they dont look very healthy- some mildew, yellow leaves with brown edges and some black spots. i dont know if it’s the lack of direct sunlight , lack of water or the toxicity of the magnolias. They are on the East and South side of the house with dappled sunlight from morning until 3pm or so. With the water restriction, its difficult to give these young plants adequate water when any water is likely being robbed by the magnolias. Any suggestions on how to better grow the icebergs or should i replacement them with more hardy florabundas in simmlar shades? Your help and recommendations are much appreciated....See Morecatsrose
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