How much does it cost to heat YOUR greenhouse?
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Cost Effiecent Heating for a Greenhouse
Comments (23)"My view - and I'm doing garden trials now - is that hot water underground in tubes is cost-effective. " I am not sure how this is to be executed. Will the hot water be in a container and insulated? Otherwise most of the heat will be lost to the earth. "A solar-powered pump is inexpensive" Solar cell generates not much power. Depending on many hydrostatic factors, I think a water pump about at least 100 watts will be needed, A 100 watt solar panel is very expensive with other electrical and electronic to go with it. When you need it the most when the sun is not out, you donÂt have the power to operate the pump. " I also see the high-end method of taking the hot air at the top of the GH and putting it underground to heat the soil. " Not easy to make this practical at all. Geothermal, where there is no hot spring type of underground heat source, I believe is a concept works best with a heat pump system to extract the small amount of BTUs in the soil. "I also use dark-colored water in containers to absorb solar radiation to help things along." Water does not have a lot of heat storage capacity (One BTU per lb per degree F) unless it goes thru phase change (144 BTU/lb of ice). Whatever heat it gives up in the cold nights, it will take away in the day time in your greenhouse. dcarch...See MoreHow much did your Bathroom Remodel Cost? Survey??
Comments (41)We are just getting prices from contractors in NYC for our 35 sq ft (actually a little less since it's not quite 7 x 5) and prices are $7,500 - $20,000 from 4 different places. The bathroom is over 50 years old and we have just been living with it for a while. It's all contractor work, no DIY. We cannot move plumbing so the layout won't change. I'm not really sure what the $7,500 price includes since the contractor would really not elaborate beyond "a basic bathroom" that includes wall to wall new tile (what we have now). One vendor who did not do a site visit (only looked at photos) came in around $15K. I am waiting on formal proposals from 2 contractors that visited this week and I gave them the wish list below that does not include any fixtures choices or finish choices but they are steering us toward custom and semi custom. One vendor said not to spend too much since we could price out the market for resale (we are not selling anytime soon, if at all) so he came down to $20K from $25K. There is one more contractor on the list that we plan to call for an estimate. A neighbor spent $40K on her bathroom. I have not seen it but just heard the price this week so I will make it a point to visit to have a look. replace bathtub/drain & replace fixtures, adjustable rain shower with separate handheld replace medicine cabinet make laundry hamper area into storage (framed with shelving) demo wall to wall tile, replace tile add recessed storage on rear shower wall install new lighting paint entire room (replace bathroom and bedroom doors - only two doors in the apartment so they should match) replace metal towel bar in shower replace storage cabinets (towels & other products) install vessel sink and fixtures add handheld sprayer for toilet (may get washlet seat if elongated toilet will fit) cover and tile over pipes; add mesh venting remove shower door (install curved shower rod) replace ceramic towel bar (8 hooks?) & switch plate add vertical toilet paper holder upgrade & add electric outlets (2 x 2); not on same circuit as lights Labor only estimates so far: $12,650 $13,200 Materials $3,355 (low) - $7,355 (high) One GC sources and stores the materials which seem to be at least 25% -50% higher for some items than I've seen locally. This post was edited by kdnyc on Tue, Jun 3, 14 at 15:24...See MoreWhy does it cost so much to seal your crawlspace?
Comments (10)That is a ridiculous amount for a ventless, conditioned crawlspace. Our house is listed at over 4K sq/ft but is a cape and very sprawling, so a big footprint AND our cost was NOWHERE near that. As far as doing it as a DIY project, I personally think it would be cake. There is really nothing to it. And, quite frankly, I'm sure that I would have done a better, tidier job than the insulation company that did the work for our contractor. However, it is an important step to the build, and I would want the contractor to bear the responsibility for getting it done and getting it done right. $20K is a major ripoff...for that size house, there is no way that it should run you more than $5K (ours was $3K 2 years ago), including the additional HVAC cost. Also, your building department will not allow you to do this after the fact. It will most likely need to be marked on the plans, and it will be part of the foundation inspection and the final inspection. Our inspectors failed our foundation inspection the first time around because we didn't have vents...even though our plans were very clearly marked that it was to be a ventless conditioned crawl. We are in Central VA....See Morecold weather blues in a wood heated greenhouse
Comments (16)Nice system, I have an idea or two that might make winter heating a little easier.... The first thing I would suggest is possibly putting up an inside layer of clear plastic in the greenhouse, it will help to keep your greenhouse warmer. Two layers help to trap heat and light much better than one, and provides an insulative space between the two, you want the inside plastic to hang away from the glass giving you a 4 to 6 inch dead air space. I experimented with pallet built greenhouses that doubled as chicken coups in the winter for a few years and I was able to keep them in the 40's without any heat other than the chickens excess body heat. They were small buildings, 6 x 10 8 ft tall with 6 chickens in each. I also have found using rotting hay and manure buried in the floor of the house useful for creating heat in the winter also, though it has the drawback of being rather stinky and producing a great deal of methane, ammonia, hydrogen sulfide and water moisture. This could lead to fungus problems in a permanent structure I imagine. I have not tried it yet but I have always wanted to use a manure and hay pile outside the building with pipes run under to circulate air through as a winter heat source, eliminates having the mulch heat source within the greenhouse. As for stove heat in a greenhouse I picked up a number of old 250 gallon oil tanks and converted on into a stove with a 55 gallon barrel stove kit. These tanks will hold up 1/4 of a cord of wood at a time, I am able to put up to 5 ft long material in it and up to 10 inches in diameter. I made the stove specifically so that I could efficiently burn brush and garbage wood in it as a heat source. I bundle all my brush in the summer into 8 inch or so diameter bundles and stack them and fill the stove with those. I am able to shut the stove down quite well and can burn a load of rotten logs for about 4 to 5 days a load. Burning brush I have to add material in the morning and in the evening. This stove produces mass amounts of heat though, enough to heat that greenhouse about 4 to 5 times over. If you can get a bigger stove that you can seal air tight you can get it to keep producing good heat for up to days at a time through the winter If you design it to where you can use garbage wood and brush as a heat source it is quite handy and if you can keep it going for a while it handy. Again, nice system and good luck with your peas, I start growing peas in the house in February, very pretty having all those flowers hanging in the windows....See Morefruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX
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