That's funny Vanessa. Its sort of like Exedrine. They have all different kinds of Exedrine, but most of them are the same thing......just called something different!
I'm curious.....did it say how many to use?

Ha ha! When I saw 'Jobes aquatic plant spikes', I was going to suggest tomato spikes. That reminds me, I think I'll go put the one's I have in the garage in my lillies tomorrow morning.

Here is a link that might be useful: Matt's Koi Pond

Hiya Catherine,
Says 1 spike per gallon every four weeks. It also says for aquatic plants only. Which is especially funny since another place has them and bills them as "Universal 8-24-8 Tomato and Aquatic Fertilizer Spikes" Huh!
Vanessa

So if your lilies are in a 10 gallon pot you would add 10 spikes every four weeks? Sounds excessive to me and could risk burning the roots.

Thanks Vanessa.
frogman......that sounds high to me too. Those are similar to other pond tabs I've used, and in a 7 gallon pot, I usually use 3-4 tabs every 3-4 weeks. Maybe if you needed more fertilizer, you could stagger when you put them all in......like 2 every week?

I bet the aquatic spikes are more money than the tomato spikes aren't they?

Fertilizer is fertilizer. Aquatic plants don't need anything different than any other plants. A higher Phosphorus (middle number) content than Nitrogen (first number) promotes blooms.

I do use different organic fertilizers in my garden, to help build the soil with different micronutrients but in a pot in a pond it isn't the same situation. Especially if not even growing in dirt since many use gravel or kitty litter.

I got excited when Exedrine came out with a migraine formula until I read the label and saw that it was exactly the same as their regular formula which has never worked for me. Glad I didn't spend the extra money.

So far, F&S isn't higher than what I've been paying locally for tomato spikes but a)I'm probably overpaying for them as it's my tiny local hardware store (Shop Local, I say. What's another few pennies?)and b)I'd have to pay shipping for the aquatic labeled ones.

I put one spike in a 1 gal pot but I'm only putting two in the 3 gal pots. I sure wouldn't put 10 in a ten gal. Might put 5 or 6, though if the plant was really filling the pot, right?

Had the same experience BuyorSell & Catherine had with the excedrine. That's why I read the labels and go for the generics! Including fertilizer. Hmm, but not fish food. Too many variables there.

Vanessa

A little off-topic.......I had bought Exedrine Free for many years. That's acetaminophen and caffeine. I was upset when I went to find it and it appeared they didn't make it anymore. But I discovered it was now called Exedrine Tension Headache medicine. hahaha How silly of them.

I'm sure they are the same as the tomato spikes.
I got my Tomato spikes from my local Ace Harware store.
They weren't on the shelf, ordered five bags, arrived in two days, no extra shipping,
I think 2.69 per bag.

fred

What the heck is Excedrine, I was thinking. What a difference an e makes. Three people make the same error? Makes me glad I use Tylenol. Strange, Sleepless

LOL Sandy........I never realized I was spelling it wrong!
Actually, I use the Exedrin that has tylenol in it instead of ASA. The caffeine in it is what always helped my headaches so well.

I don't use the stuff so didn't notice we were spelling it wrong! I tried it ten years ago and it didn't work for me for either a tension or migraine headache.

I tried so many OTC and prescription drugs but nothing worked until I tried Zomig last year. Almost fifteen years of suffering with increasingly severe and more frequent migraines and they would not prescribe Imitrex or Zomig because I didn't throw up or see spots before my eyes.

People are so different in what works for them. I'm really sensitive to stuff that constricts arteries.......so Maxalt and then caffeine really worked for me, but I had to be careful with rebound headaches. I had a migraine every day for a year and a half. Life was not good. I blamed it on perimenopause. I've had migraines my whole life, but they worsened sooooo much during perimenopause.
One thing that really upsets me is that that whole time, I was on Aciphex, for GERD. I quit that drug about 4 years ago, and my headaches improved. I restarted it about a year ago, and got horrible headaches from it. Now I'm wondering if all those danged headaches were side-effects from that med! I can't believe I might have suffered needlessly, just because of that drug.
Oh.....Toprol (a beta blocker), was like a miracle for me. It completely took all the headaches away (even the ones caused by Aciphex)........but it also took my energy and brain away. There's always a trade-off, I guess.
Buyorsell, I can't believe they wouldn't let you try those meds, just because you didn't have a couple symptoms. Bummer. Have you ever tried a beta blocker?

Yeah, those have been around a year or two but I've never actually seen a package of them. I don't know if they still are but they have been on the Ace Hardware website in the past. They are the same as the tomato spikes.

After hunting for the tomato spikes every where in my town I picked up some fertilizer spikes for ponds. It cost me $3.99 but with the price of gas I was glad to get them.

I take Prilosec for GERD, hope it isn't giving me headaches. I have tried to stop taking it but the acid reflux was so bad I had to start again. I've taken it for over a decade.

I just tried Topamax for three weeks and simply could not function. No reduction in headaches and I was so lightheaded and fatigued I could not drive. Also had cognitive problems. I had stop, was really interfering with my job.

Not to perimenopause yet but should be sometime in the next couple of years.

Went to a special TMJ dentist and he said he thinks my jaw is a big part of the problem but I have no coverage for TMJ and the splint he wants to make me is $1500.

Sometime perimenopause starts in late 30's.

One thing about reflux......Whenever you stop taking those drugs, you can have really bad rebound reflux......which happened to me. After a week or 2, it all settled down. Is it possible you're just not giving it enough time to get over the rebound acid production?
Prilosec IS a proton pump inhibitor. Please consider that it might be giving you your headaches. I wouldn't want anyone to have those horrible things, not realizing it was the PPI.
I never even considered it and suffered for so long.
When the doc wanted me to start up on it again last year, I got headaches immediately......on Aciphex, Nexium and one other I can't remember which....and then a lightbulb went on in my head.
Could you possibly limp through a Prilosec withdrawal, using stuff like Mylanta, Rolaids? The absolute worst thing for my GERD is carbs. its really unbelieveable how much reflux those can cause. So maybe cut back on those for a couple weeks, while trying to get off the Prilosec, and then you can see if they are causing or worsening your
headaches.
I hope ya'll don't mind this little off-topic trip I took. Just would love to help a fellow migraineur, if I can!
P.S. Buyorsell.......there's a guy who was on a GERD forum I was on who has a book out on his discovery......that it is an over-consumption of carbs that causes GERD. Would you like me to find the name of that book?

I'd be thrilled. Sorry to everyone else for going off topic.

No, I've never made it past a couple of days without the Prilosec.

My gyno says I'm not in perimenopause yet. I'm 44 so I certainly could be.

My email is my Gardenweb username at comcast.net would love to talk more.

I'll write you soon buyorsell.