Unsure what to do with Blush Noisette
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Preparing a large Blush Noisette for trade
Comments (9)You're welcome! I'd try to keep them balanced ss close to cubic volume as possible. If the roots are only 20" long, the top should be about the same. If the root ball is the size of a fifteen gallon can, the top mass should be about the same. Anything left substantially larger than that is likely to die back due to lack of support from the roots anyway. You often can't try to balance tops and roots by gauge of cane/root as they don't all match when growing. But, if you consider cubic mass supporting similar cubic mass, it should work pretty easily. If possible, she could use a nursery can with the bottom cut out to slip over the plant and fill with mulch/soil, etc., to insulate the plant to keep it darker and cooler until new growth shows from the tops of the canes. Like mounding a bare root with soil after planting, you'd leave the top few inches of the canes protruding from the soil so you have them as your barometers of what's happening with the plant. Hopefully, they'll remain green and plump until the plant has begun setting out roots in the new location. Once it's absorbing more moisture than it needs just to remain alive, it should begin pushing new growth buds to form new leaves and canes. When that occurs, you can begin removing the mulch inside the can gradually as the plant develops. I wouldn't do it all at once unless it's raining or a prolonged period of damp, cool weather with periods of rain or regular fogs. The extra moisture in the air during those periods do very much the same thing as keeping the plant mounded. If it's too large to use a suitably sized nursery can, perhaps a cylinder of card board or other readily available material can be constructed to serve as a temporary cylinder around the plant? I like to use cylinders of this type for newly planted bare roots or severely pruned transplants so it is about the height of the plant's canes once planted. If they stick out of it a few inches, it should be OK unless the weather is really hot, dry and windy, then you'll probably have more die back than you might have if you'd been able to keep more of the plant covered. When I've planted the bare roots in cans first, I'll take a second can of the same size, cut out the bottom and insert it over the plant into the bottom can before filling the bottom can fully so they are stacked enough to keep them together once filled with soil. The top cylinder permits you to water the whole pot at once, keeping all of the soil damp and the plant cool, dark and damp. Creating a cylinder of the appropriate size to fit over the planted plant will permit you to do the same. If that's not possible, using Lyn G's idea of covering the plant with old tee shirts and keeping them damp when possible, will help keep the plant hydrated better than just allowing it to remain fully exposed to the air, sun and heat. You could also use fabric of other types...old sheets, blankets, etc. I wouldn't use plastics because they'd trap too much heat and possibly cook the plant, but breathable fabric, kept hosed down to remain as damp as you can during the hotter parts of the day will help. She'll see how the plant is doing from the exposed cane tips. A little browning is to be expected, but that should stabilize and the plant should begin growing on its own in a relatively short time. As long as the site has suitable drainage, the extra water shouldn't really be an issue. Just think how much water it could get from a heavy rain. And, you don't have to flood the fabric, but just wet it down to add moisture. I'd think using a lighter colored fabric in full sun would work better, too, because of absorbed heat being lower than it would with a dark color. I'm sure you or she can figure out other ways of accomplishing conditions similar to these, using the space and resources you have available. If the plant is going to a cooler, damper, foggier climate, these efforts won't be as important. If it goes to a hotter, more arid, sunnier area, they're even more necessary, until the plant is growing well on its own. You honestly have to think about it as you would a new bare root. Neither has sufficient root system under them to support the plant in extreme conditions, so you have to improvise to provide them what they require to keep them from drying out before setting out new roots. Warmth and light are the enemies here. Cooler, darker and damper help much more. If the whole thing is really large, make several cylinders of cardboard, the lowest being the largest. Place it around the plant and fill about half to two-thirds with the mulch/soil being used, then place the next smaller one which will fit around the plant inside, around the plant. Fill that one and continue building a circular "pyramid", like staking cake layers, until you've covered as much of the plant as you want or are able to. By inserting the upper cylinders into the soil of the lower ones, the water percolating through the soil from top watering should absorb into the soil rather than running out from under each layer and washing out of them. I hope I've made sense and helped give you other ideas which may work well for you. Good luck to you both! Kim...See MoreBlush Noisette
Comments (9)Jeri. Thank you very much again. I will put Blush Noisette on my order rose list for this year and hope it will be available for this season. I used to see a rose call 'Rama 5' in north of Thailand but hardly to remember a color something lilac pink, large rose and strong old rose scent? Actually this rose has other name in Thai word. Best grow in north of Thailand. Here I have a romantic history of The King Rama 5, if weÂre talk about ours King Rama 5 weÂre always think of a pink roses too. Because he love roses very much especially pink roses and when he went to work or traveled aboard he always bring back a lot roses from many country to grown at his Palace and many of his roses collection are pink and now most of garden in Thailand still growing his roses. I do also have one in my garden deep pink color; strong damask scent grew tall as a climber cup rosette shape but hardly to know of their name....See MoreHow Much Space For Blush Noisette?
Comments (31)I can tell you the opposite story, of sorts, of my CPC and BN. I had ordered a recliner that I picked out from a showroom floor. After getting the wrong color for the fifth time, 5 Fridays in a row, they had delivered the wrong one, I was pretty upset. The guys looked as upset to be taking back yet another one as I was at sending back another yet. I told them in no uncertain terms that the salesman told me they had tagged the one on the floor and the one they brought this week was the same one they had delivered on week #1 and week #3, so to take it back again and try to follow instructions, to pick the ****** recliner up off the ****** showroom floor, as instructed. They looked pretty crestfallen by this time but I continued ranting to the top of my lungs to the salesman on the phone while DH was trying to calm things down and Nellie (the housekeeper getting the smelling salts in case I passed out from anger), when they picked up the chair and I escorted them to the front door, near where BN and CPC reside and were in full fall bloom. As they passed through the door, chair in tow, the short one who was always the most defensive, looked at me like a little puppy and said, "M'am, your yard is so pretty and it smells like Heaven." Had he taken that course on how to win friends and influence enemies, or was he serious that these roses smelled like Heaven? They did. He totally disarmed me and I cut him some long canes with blooms to take with him....See MoreBlush Noisette or Champneys Pink Cluster
Comments (5)I love Champneys pink cluster" and here in Oakland, Ca it re-blooms as well as Blush Noisette, and C.P.C retains its attractive foliage through early December. I got rid of my "Blush Noisette" because the roses wern't nearly as pretty as " Chamneys Pink Cluster" and in our garden, where p.m. is more of a problem than blackspot, C.P.C. was healthier. We got C.P.C from Ashdown collection which is now at Rogue valley nursery. Luxrosa...See More
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