Is growing Moss roses in Florida a pipe dream?
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Comments (2)What a gorgeous picture! Of the old roses, polyanthas (at least some of them) do stay small and can easily be grown in pots. Little White Pet is an excellent one, but there are many others. Their flowers are also on the small side, but there will be many of them. Some of the early hybrid teas are also smaller plants (La France being a lovely and very fragrant example) that you might try in pots. Ingrid...See MoreIs it me or is it hard to grow roses in Florida?
Comments (13)Susan, It can get discouraging at times but don't give up. I lost about 50 mature shrubs to the hurricanes about 6 years age. Then a year or so later, the remaining 120 bushes were demolished with Chili Thrips before I figured out what it was. But now I can recognize Chili Thrip damage and stop them before they get too far, and my rose garden of 150+ bushes is flourishing again. There are a couple of things that I have found in my 26 years of growing roses in FL that may be beneficial to you. 1. You probably know this but, start with roses on fortuniana rootstock. Some grow on their own roots but the best bet is fortuniana. FYI, I am going against my own advice and trying a few varieties own root lately. 2. Just because a rose is on fortuniana does not mean that it will thrive. Some roses simply do not like the heat and humidity even if they are on fortuniana while others thrive and continue to flourish through the summer. 3. While some varieties get established immediately and will be 7 feet at the end of the first year (like Brides Dream), other take a few years to get established and bloom quality and production improves with time (Pristine was this way for me). I give any rose on fortuniana three years 4. When first planted, water every day for a few weeks. Also, hold back on the high nitrogen fertilizer until the root system is established. On established plants, I use a combination of slow release organic and synthetic fertilizer once every 10-12 weeks. Sometimes if the established roses need a boost, I occasionally use a high quality liquid that I get special order from my local nursery. Once the roses are established, you can push the bloom cycle but not before. 5. For moderns, you have to spray every 2 weeks for fungus. I use Bayer Disease Control (not the combo product) 6. For established roses, water as needed (usually 2-3 time per week in the summer) and be sure to water beyond the drip line to encourage those shallow fortuniana roots to spread out. Some people swear by drip irrigation but I water from above in the early morning. 7. I only spray insecticides for Chili Thrips. Learn to recognize the damage and be prepared to spray for them if necessary. 8. Add organic matter and mulch if available. I am probably the only person left in my neighborhood who bags their grass because I like to let it dry out and spread around the roses. So in summary, water beyond the drip line in the morning, spray for fungus every two weeks and fertilize every 10-12 weeks. Growing roses in Fl can be very rewarding. We have a long growing season and no Japanese Beetles/ Roses that I have found which continue to bloom through the summer are Elina, Kentucky Derby, Brides Dream, Tournamnet of Roses, Belindas Dream, Heritage, Sunset Celebration, Pristine, Perfume Delight, Flo Nelson, Carefree Wonder, Iceberg, Moonstone, Midas Touch, Tropicanna. I'm sure there are others that I can't remember right now. Good......See MoreFlorida Rose Growers - How do your roses grow?
Comments (14)Interesting how some things change while others stay the same. Avalon: My Vets Honor gets a fair amount of morning sun. I have to say that it is a heavy feeder and performs best when fertilized consistantly. Belinda's Dream is a work-horse in my garden where I have almost as many of it as I do of Elina. I recently purchased two Pope John Paul II after being pleasantly surprised by the growth of one that I ordered from J&P in the Fall on own-root. I was able to find it at a nursery in Miami. Appearantly a nursery up in Central Florida has begun to take up the slack left behind from MerryGro and is selling J&P roses on Fortuniana rootstock under the name of Armstrong Roses. I've spotted a few of these roses at my local Home Depot in Pembroke Pines. Well, bottom line, and a return from my tangent, PJP II is creating quiet a sensation in my garden. Peggy: My hat goes off to you. I can't get into OGRs. I can just imagine that they're huge in their pots. I was just up to the Cool Roses farm this weekend and Geoff echoed what has been a growing problem in my garden, regular thrips. He said that the weather is keeping the Chilli Thrips at bay but that the regular thrips are reaking havoc everywhere. I was warned against overly using ConserveSC and to stock up if I found any for sale as it has become restricted due to nurseries over-using it to combat Chilli Thrips. In other news: My raised beds project is 40% complete and coming along nicely. I hope to post pics some time in the future. Enjoy our Spring while it lasts Florida!!! Adrian....See MoreHelp please. I want to grow some roses in pots in south florida
Comments (10)I have a lot of experience with planting roses in pots. Consider why you want to use pots instead of planting your roses in the ground. If you want to keep your roses in pots for a long time I would consider a larger pot (10gal+) such as: I got this one at Costco ($20) a few years back. Now, if you want to pot up your roses temporarily for the purpose of giving your roses a head start, which is what I did this past year, I would recommend using cheaper nursery pots (the big box stores don't sell these, I buy mine from Diamond Fertilizer for around $1 each). I go all out and create my own potting mix by mixing top soil with compost, Perilite, granular fertilizer, and peat moss (1 bag + 1 bag + ten cups + 3 cups + 5 cups). It's an inexpensive way to pot up several dozen roses, but is very labor intensive. I used to mix in the crystals for hydration, but I didn't see much of a difference so I cut out the expense. I have found that the Miracle Gro Rose Soil is good, but I get the same outcome using the competitions garden soil (it costs around $6 a bag). I did cover my garden beds in professional grade ground cover to stem off the weeds and prevent the roses from rooting down in the ground, as this sets them back a bit when you have to relocate the pot and tear up the roots in the process. I only have a problem with needing to raise the roses off of the ground during the extreme wet months, and even then there's no predicting what will happen. I have planted several roses on Dr. Huey directly into the ground and the average life span runs between three and five years with very good care. The ones that survive past five years are those that set off on their own roots and tend to be very hardy (Don Juan, Sonia, Mister Lincoln, Queen Elizabeth, etc.). You will have to keep to a regular spray program in order to achieve success with these roses. I've found that planting these roses close to a house tends to increase their success. Unfortunately, I've had limited success with those bagged roses once placed in the ground. They are extremely difficult to start to begin with. Once you DO get them started, they tend to be less healthy than potted roses you'd find in the garden center (my experience). Try posting pictures of your situation for better feedback. Good Luck! -Adrian....See Moreemmiegray1
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