Ortho Garden Disease Control (Daconil) ? Organic?
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Comments (20)I was going to get around to ants (eventually); but since you ask we can deal with them here and now. To begin with, here is a quote on how to get rid of ants. "Rid your garden of aphids, whiteflies and mealybugs. These sap-feeding insects excrete "honeydew," a sugary favorite of ants.' Elsewhere, a similar site advises to get rid of aphids, "rid your garden of ants!" The connection (almost a symbiosis!) between ants and aphids is quite established. I got rid of aphids on some crepe myrtles by getting rid of the ants and leaving the rest to the lady bugs. Please do not ask what I used. (I wonder what would happen to the aphids population if lady bugs ate up ants.) And now we have to ponder "organic" methods of getting rid of ants. I am in favor of soap and water. Long ago and far away, I read that one should treat a lawn in a similar fashion as one treats her / his hair - cut / mow; comb / rake and shampoo / soap. At that time I was tempted to try anything. (Flower child and all that.) So I used to spray the front yard with a strong soap solution every month. It worked to keep the lawn free of insects. The soap was quite 'hard' - almost caustic. I kept a cake (bar) of it in a jam jar full of water. I would pour off the liquid into a hose end sprayer (modified paint sprayer) and hose down the lawn each month. I regularly use the "soap flush" method to determine insect infestation on lawns. I am quite confident that if the property (walls to fence) were to be sprayed with a solution of lemon flavored dishwashing liquid (one tablespoon per gallon through a Gilmour 00362 hose end sprayer) every 4 weeks, it will keep the landscape free of a build up of harmful insects. Did I forget to note that "mention of any trade name or commercial product does not constitute endorsement or recommendation of this product by me"? All of this has been an attempt to illustrate the use of another tool to "organically" control pests. Manipulation of the environment to reduce infestation or infection. The other tool so far, was Encourage the presence of predators to control a pest Do you wonder why I put quotation marks around words that are rooted in the term "organic"?...See MoreProactive Disease Control
Comments (1)I have reached the same conclusion as you and this year I am trying the fungicide early &often approach here in southern New Hampshire. In theory you can do it without spraying just by spacing plants so they dry out, avoiding contact between the soil and tomato leaves, avoiding splashback from watering, etc. But as we know, theory does not take New England weather into account, or the short growing season. I have decided to apply all those good techniques and spray on top of it. An rainy spring like we had last year in New England and all that theory and high hopes goes out the window. Then it becomes either spray the tomato plants or start losing plants to the fungus. I sprayed last year when mold started to hit but too late, so this year I am being proactive like you....See MoreDaconil for tomato leaf diseases...Arguments?
Comments (16)All check out a blog called Tomatoville. It has lots of advice. If you have mildew or mold spray with 5 ounces of bleach to 1 gallon of water at dusk or dawn. Then 5 days later spray copper mix, then 5 days later spray Daconil Mix. Keep this schedule and never spray during hot or sunny periods. You do this combined with using resistant varieties and you will not have a problem. This also works on most all vegetables. Note while sulfur will help tomatoes it is poison to cucurbits so be careful. BTW Bayer Advanced has a great concentrate product that you add to a early spring watering and it absorbs through the roots. If any insects eat the leaves (leaf miners, white fly, etc) they die but it does not harm bees or butterfly’s. https://m.lowes.com/pd/BAYER-ADVANCED-32-fl-oz-Fruit-Citrus-and-Vegetable-Insect-Control/3170999?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA--LawnGarden--OutdoorPesticide-_-3170999:BAYER_ADVANCED&CAWELAID=&kpid=3170999&CAGPSPN=pla&store_code=2371&k_clickID=5e2496f1-b1ff-4a7a-94ae-12538511d6a1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIj7-krLnL2gIVlrrACh2cQAn5EAQYASABEgJ1zPD_BwE On Tomatoville search for a thread called Mite Mix. There are some good creations for fighting spider mites....See MoreDaconil/Chlorothalonil different rates???
Comments (35)Late blight is not a soil-borne disease. The fungus can not survive in soil without a host plant (composting potato tubers, over-wintering volunteer plants, etc.) Instead, Phytophthora infestans is actually an airborne fungus. Spores can be carried as far as 50 miles in the wind. That's why there's such a danger of commercial farmer's fields being infected by home gardeners' plants. Control of this devastating blight is not just about us. And organic tomato farmers are the most at risk. I'm with Jeff Gillman, author of The Truth About Organic Gardening: Benefits, Drawbacks, and the Bottom Line and The Truth About Garden Remedies: What Works, What Doesn't, and Why . While he advocates organic methods where they work, a simplistic organic = good, synthetic = bad paradigm has no basis in fact. "Gardeners tend to assume that any product or practice labeled as organic is automatically safe for humans and beneficial to the environment. And in many cases this is true. The problem, as Jeff Gillman points out in this fascinating, well-researched book, is that it is not universally true, and the exceptions can pose a significant threat to human health. To cite just two examples: animal manures are widely viewed as prime soil amendments. When properly treated, they are; but if they are insufficiently composted, they can be a source of harmful E. coli contamination. Even more dangerous, potentially, are organic insecticides like rotenone, which is every bit as toxic as the synthetic compounds it is meant to replace. Gillman's contention is that all gardening products and practices - organic and synthetic - need to be examined on a case-by-case basis to determine both whether they are safe and whether they accomplish the task for which they are intended. When gardeners are well informed about the precise nature and consequences of what they use and do in the garden, they are in a much better position to make responsible, effective choices. If you've ever wondered about the merits of a specific insecticide, herbicide, or fungicide, or debated whether practices such as planting cover crops or companion plants are worth the trouble, you'll find the answers you've sought in these pages, along with a clear, careful, and good-humored analysis of benefits and drawbacks. Ultimately, Gillman concludes, organic methods are preferable in most situations that gardeners are likely to encounter. After reading this eye-opening book, you will understand why, and why knowledge is the gardener's most important tool." A limited preview of both books is available on Google Books: The Truth About Organic Gardening http://books.google.com/books?id=SAAsf4H8BocC The Truth About Garden Remedies http://books.google.com/books?id=tf11WJ9PVfwC Gillman's favorite fungicide is MILK in a 2 parts water, 1 part milk solution. It's been proven to work on roses for black spot disease and is suspected to work on other fungal diseases as well. The key word......See Morebyron
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