Thank you so much for the warning, even 10 yrs later it's still advertised steel sleeve. I wondered as I'm looking to buy a new engine to set back for future replacement since new throwaway designs (never change oil) are so terrible. Not sure how briggs durability in the future is but I know their past and getting one while I can. Its for my 1996 Snapper self propelled mower, I saw the 875 JD engine sold alone online. I knew B/S site says the 875 is just aluminum bore & the 850 is sleeved but I thought JD ordered them special maybe? This is not the case as I suspected and how I found these posts. Oh well' now I learned at least a few things on my project. 1} Snapper disc drive self propels outlast 3+ engines easy. My lawncare friends snapper SP deck outlasted (2 Briggs,1 Honda so far). 2} JD really are a bunch of liars. 3} The 850 Pro is the real Briggs Pro engine under Vanguard. To anyone who thinks steel sleeves are not needed in Aluminum engines try telling this to GM...Mention them saving a few bucks producing the Vega , as that is why it's engine failed at 30k on average. Sleeved aluminum engines are in almost every car today, my old Toyota had 420k when I sold it 5 years ago, still see it around town. One truck near me here, Google this: Clyde glides to a million. Thanks again!!

Is the rope start cover fitting flush to the case when you install it ?? When I fit the cover to the flywheel of any saw, I always pull up on the start handle several inches, several times to settle the pulley into the starter pawls correctly, as I push the cover to be flush with the case.

Where to start? 1997 Yardman snowblower 9 horsepower Tecumseh engine. 2008 Toro Single stage snowblower 2-cycle R-tek. 2007 Sears Craftsman Lawn Tractor 18 horse B&S engine. 6 speed manual. 42 inch deck. Soon to be 1986 John Deere Lawn Tractor. 12.5 horsepower Kawasaki engine. Hydrostatic transmission. 38 inch deck. 1988 Lawn Boy walk behind 4.5 horse 2-cycle engine. The first personal pace model number 8480. 1996 White walk behind mower 3.75 B&S engine. 18 inch cut. A late 1950s Jacobson walk behind. 2.5 horsepoweer 2-cycle engine. Runs like brand new. 2004 Echo GT 2000 gas trimmer. 2000 Echo gas blower. 2008 Troy Bilt walk behind edger. 2 Weed Eater electric blowers.

Hi Guys. Another Story. At the ripe old age of 15 I put my age up so I could join the Bush Fire Brigade. Now known locally as the Rural Fire Service. In those days we did things that today would be illegal under the Occupational Health and Safety legislation. In 1958 from memory we had some pretty bad fires in the Blue Mountains which are situated just behind Sydney. I had a Knapsack spray on my back for three days solid. At one stage I had just filled the Knapsack from a half dry creek using my cotton base ball cap as a scoop Just as I returned to the fire line we had a wind come up the valley causing the fire to jump our fire break. Well it was every man for himself as we ran for our lives. I took off and in the smoke tripped over an old log and went face first into the mud in the creek bed only to have someone else land on top of me. Then as I disentangled myself and started to run I dumped the water from the Knapsack so I could run faster. I was about to ditch the Knapsack also but we were so short of equipment two guys came along each side and grabbed an arm each and pulled me along behind them. A couple of minutes later we reached the safety of Blackheath Golf Course and as we looked back the fire brought down a set of 66 kV power lines. Talk about Sh__ and cinders, as the lines hit the ground they made a sound like a rolling artillery barrage and sent clouds of ash and lightening skywards. It was most spectacular and a little frightening especially as we were so close. Things settled down on the Monday and so we had a bit of R&R and did maintenance. We had ageing WWII GMC Blitz wagons for tankers and they were never designed to carry the weight of water we put in the tanks and so they needed a lot of TLC. But they were bloody marvellous, in low range four wheel drive they would go up a vertical wall if gravity did not pull them off. We would go up the highway flat out at about 35 MPH with lights flashing but we never turned the siren on because it was too embarrassing as all the traffic streamed past at a prodigious rate. In retrospect it was just as well they did not go faster as there was no crew cab so we had to stand on something akin to a running board down the side of the tank and hang on to a hand rail. But when you were too buggered to pull a hose off a reel you could sit on top of the tank hosing down the fire as the truck was driven through the bush, Anything that got in the way was just pushed over and rolled flat. On the Tuesday we were called down to a lovely small township called Leura. When we got there the fire had gotten into the township and there were a number of buildings alight. We managed to save a number by going into the roof space and fighting the fire under the roof. The roof timbers were so hot most of us ended up with blisters on our hands and knees where we crawled across the timbers. Today you would not be allowed to do that. After about four hours we were urgently called back to Base at Blackheath as the fire was then threatening our own township. That was a black day in the history of Leura. One in three buildings were lost including the Presbyterian church in the middle of town. On another occasion I was down in the Jamison Valley near the Three Sisters (See following link. http://www.bluemts.com.au/tourist/thingsToDo/threeSisters.asp ) where there had been a fire which we managed to keep in the valley. Now the valley where we were consisted of Sand stone cliffs around several hundred feet high while the valley floor was a "V" shape which was about 150 feet deep with a creek in the bottom. About half way up one side of the "V" there was a walking trail and we had managed to keep the fire between the trail and the cliff face. I was down there with a Chain Saw mopping up after the fire when I was asked to take down a hollow tree about 2 Ft in diameter and thirty feet tall and which was alight up the middle. A bit like a fire cracker streaming sparks and stuff out the top. I wanted to drop the thing lengthwise with the valley so if it rolled down it would get caught on a rock, stump or tree trunk which would arrest it. But the Fire captain wanted it dropped up hill and he won the argument. So I had a young guy with a knapsack keep a stream of water on the chain bar and blade to keep them cool as I cut through the burning log and I got stuck into it. Well I dropped the thing exactly where he wanted it but as it bounced it took off lengthwise across the walking trail and down the valley where it had not been burnt, just like a run away freight train trailing behind it a stream of flames and sparks. In some ways you could say, it was a bit like a wingless FA18 with the afterburners going full blast. Well all hell broke loose the two way radios went into overdrive with everyone shouting over each other and people came running from miles away. Fortunately they managed to put the fire out below the walking trail pretty quickly and then rolled the log into the creek to put the fire out that was burning inside it. Being involved it was pretty serious, but I later met some sight sears who had observed the whole thing from a look out at the top of the valley and they thought it was hilarious. As one guy said I dont know why you guys needed walkie talkies we could hear you yelling at each other up here without them. By the way The saw was a McCulloch Farm Boss. And they were a damed good saw. Pitty they don't still make them.