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Best bagging self propelled

13 years ago

Im in the market for a new self propelled push mower. I plan on bagging year around and only mulching in the spring. So im trying to find a very good bagger that can also mulch good enough for spring. Now i know i will get suggestions on Hondas which i am open to but i have a toro/hurquvanna and a cub cadet/snapper/john deer dealer in town which i would rather buy from instead of Home Depot because they both have very good customer service. As far as drive systems go I can adapt to any with some time. Im just looking for performance and reliability. Some models that i have looked at is;

Toro super recycler($529)

Toro super bagger($629)

Honda hrx smartdrive($599)

Honda hrr ($499)

Snapper hi-vacs (havent priced)

Snapper spv21675 ($399)

Cub cadet w/ castor wheels and honda 190 motor ($430)

Any kind of feedback would be welcomed. Thanks.

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roadbike
13 years ago
Toro Super Recycler would be the best choice. It will bag and mulch exceptionally well and will last for several decades if you keep up on maintenance.
Brad051
Original Author
13 years ago
Ive had my eye on that one but my toro dealer said that the super bagger would be the better choice. Didnt know if he just wanted to make a few extra bucks off the sale or if it would be the better choice. I know i read something on here that said the kickers reduce bagging by 20% but others say it does great. Thanks for the feedback.
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Both of these mowers will serve you well, expecially considering the small size of your lot. Should only be about a 30 minute job each mowing. Since you are at Sears, I would also recommend another mower, at a slightly cheaper price, a Craftsman brand that has a Honda GCV 160 engine. It is presently on sale for $289.95, and appears to be identical to my Craftsman-Honda purchased in 2000. I have an hour meter on this mower, and it is up to 490+ hours right now, and the engine still does a one year, 60+ hour oil change interval without using a drop of oil. It is on its' second set of wheels. I have a .5 acre lot, which I am already having to cut twice a week this year, and I use the mower year 'round, cleaning up leaves and yard debris through the fall and winter. If I were in the market for a new mower, it would be a hard choice as Sears has so many on sale in the $300 price range, including rear wheel drive models that many on this board find more desirable. For myself, I would choose between the Husky with the Kohler or the Craftsman with the Honda.
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rdaystrom
13 years ago
Snapper Hi-Vac is the best bagger. I have several of both and the Snappers outperform the Toro Super Recycler in the bagging department. That's my opinion.
1saxman
13 years ago
The Toro 'Super Bagger' makes use of designs that were tested on various Lawn-Boy models no longer available, like the aluminum-deck 'Insight' models and the 22271 commercial. This hi-dome deck bags and mulches great without any 'disruptors' in the airstream in the housing. This mower is a completely different design from the Super Recycler. Both Toros have the Personal Pace drive which is very reliable and requires basically no operator input. If I were looking for a new one I would be sure to go see in person any mower I was interested in before buying.
roadbike
13 years ago
I would recommend the super bagger if you weren't doing both bagging and mulching.
ukDavid
13 years ago
What about the drive? I have just about had it with my TroyBilt. It uses a belt that gets tensioned with a lever on the handlebar. It never ever worked properly and I've sworn never to get anything with a belt again. There must be better arrangements out there?

My very first post. Thanks.
roadbike
13 years ago
ukDavid - Your post doesn't fit at all in this discussion. Does it belong under another thread???
wmas1960
13 years ago
I have been looking at a couple Toro machines with their Personal Pace systems. I think that may be what uk is asking about. I don't know about them but have a lot of praise about them. As I understand, they respond bye biding more drive, the harder you push, other words, sensing your forward momentum and matching that with an appropriate pace. Mechanically speaking though, I. Don't know how they work.
wmas1960
13 years ago
OOps! Should read. I have READ a lot of praise
paulga
13 years ago
snapper hi-vac for me too. i have the commercial one with the kawasaki down side it is expensive i paid 799.00 + tax it is now 999.00+ tax according to there website mine is almost 3 years old. the cut i get from the ninga blade is second to none,i almost always mulch.motor is very strong it never boggs down even in high grass as long as the blade is sharp. i sharpen the blade every 3 cuts during the growing season.i have 6 blades that i rotate.got to have a snapper no other mower would i consider
joe_mn
13 years ago
self propelled means 22" cut? my yard is saddle shape. does not fall away from house. actually rises up the further out you go. so i get a great view of my work. had 22" before. hated the lines from mowing. got a 33" dbl blade walkbehind unit. mulching is subpar. get lines of debris in june from leftover grass. yes i know. mow more often. my yard is 1/2 acre. did take a long time to mow with 22" unit.

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