Plugging Zorro Zoysia for shady area to match bermuda?
12 years ago
Featured Answer
Sort by:Oldest
Comments (11)
- 12 years ago
Related Discussions
Zoysia
Comments (11)I can attest to the zoysia staying brown for a good portion of the year. I'm in SE PA and have had brown grass since probably early-mid november. This past fall I heavily dethatched and aerated the lawn and then overseeded with a fescue blend which looks not that bad (still can see some brown but there is a nice undertone of green. I would recommend against this if possible. One of the worst things about zoysia is it is incredibly effective at out competing other grasses during its growing season. My next door neighbor (of whom our lawns are directly connected with no barrier between) had her entire lawn reseeded 2 years ago with a non-zoysia blend (I assume fescue). Everything looked pretty good during the growing season (except she didn't know how to water properly and proceeded to drown the grass every night for 30minutes the whole summer). Come that winter the story was completely different. A huge 10foot swath of grass going right into the center of her lawn was brown. It looked like you took a can of paint and threw it in her lawn. That was 2 years ago. This past winter almost 40% of her lawn was now zoysia and let me tell you; a brown lawn doesn't look great, but a polka dot green/brown lawn looks MUCH worse. So I would agree and highly recommend against zoysia in your region. If I could get rid of mine and be absolutely sure it wouldn't come back I would....See MoreGrass to mix in with SA in shady areas?
Comments (18)Yes, TW, and THAT would be the difference between what can be purchased in a big box store, and what I have access to as a certified, licensed pesticide applicator. You are absolutely correct. Well then I apologizes to all as I was referring to professional use products. The link that was given in this thread is for aerial use from helicopters and airplanes, or commercial farming with tractor sprayer. All personal using and handling it has to wear PPE gear. But to be honest I did not realize they sold consumer grade in the liquid form. I truly thought it was only available to consumers in the granular forms. I can only guess the concentration level is so low that it is not considered hazardous to humans. Kind of hard to imagine because the professional grade stuff requires protective clothing, gloves, boots, and face shields to use and mix. Heck even the flaggers for crop dusting are required to wear PPE and respirators....See MoreZoysia vs. Bermuda
Comments (35)I agree fully with ceresone. And Helen, I have that same hatred for certain insects and weeds, adding puncture vine, bindweed, grasshoppers, tomato hornworm and Japanese beetles. The beetles aren't so much the problem because they're beetles for only about a month here in NE OK. But their larvae, the grubworms, are in the ground all year long. They ruin most of my sweet potato crop EVERY year. I have tried Milky Spore. They laugh. Every time I dig in the garden, I extract any grubworms I find and put them in a tray with a raised edge so they can't crawl out. Placed near the birdbath, they are treats for the birds. But this time of year, the birds' digestions are changing from bugs to seeds and they are ignoring the grubworm gifts that I leave. Other than food for birds, nothing would be lost if the Japanese beetle went extinct, but pretty sure that won't ever happen. I struggle against Bermuda all the time, it is in my raised beds and everywhere. Nothing kills it, believe me I have tried. Not even RoundUp but I won't have that stuff on the place anymore anyway. They say Bermuda can be shaded out but I have seen it emerge through the top of a 4' tall pile of wood chips and punch through cardboard. Bindweed is equally invasive and seems to put poisons into the ground that affect germination of seeds and out-competes the plants I want to grow. I have trouble growing good bean plants. So far my best, but not perfect, ally has been the use of cardboard. It will not completely "shade it out", but it does seem to encourage the roots to grow closer to the surface so that I can more easily dig it out and get all the root. But, make no mistake, once established ANYWHERE, keeping it out of garden spaces is a whole career. Tilling will work in the short term but in the long term makes the problem worse. What's in my open areas is regularly mown, but never watered, not even during drought. And yes, it makes a lovely lawn and is a good choice if that's all you ever intend to grow. And I mean EVER....See MoreShaded areas in Bermuda lawn
Comments (3)Thanks dchall! I've seen you around on all the lawn forums for ages so I know you know your stuff. I based my seeding time on the UGA soil temperature website (http://weather.uga.edu/aemn/cgi-bin/AEMN.pl?site=GAAP&report=st), which says that soil temps for my area for the first two weeks of May averaged between 65-70 degrees from 2-8 inch depths, which seemed warm enough for bermuda. It got unseasonably hot this year in GA and stayed hot. We were in the nineties with regularity by late May. I generally try to time my fertilizer applications with expected rain. We've gotten a fair bit of rain this year (11 inches since May according to the UGA website) and I haven't noticed any burn. I've been trying to decide on the watering issue. I know it would help the lawn, but my husband really hates seeing people run their sprinklers so I don't know if he'll support me on that. I'm a stay at home mom and I do all my lawn maintenance generally during the day the two days a week someone else has my kids so I have to contend with some timing issues as well. Plus we have water restrictions in place. If the HOA didn't demand bermuda in the front yard I'd consider replacing the lawn with something easier but as long as I have to have it up front I might as well try to get it everywhere. My current thought is that if there's not a lot of bermuda in the back yard after I kill off the crabgrass that I may try to slit seed next spring/summer and invest in the hoses and timers and sprinklers needed at that time. I know that for cool-weather grasses you and others generally try to avoid aeration, but I haven't been able to get a sense of whether that applies to warm season grasses like bermuda. If I can avoid aerating again anytime soon, I would prefer that. I did it myself with a rental and it kicked my butt. I only managed to do one pass and I was so exhausted by the end of it that I had to get a neighbor to help my husband put the machine in the car to take back. Thanks for the tip on the phone. I took the pictures on a whim after posting the first post and tried to duck out and get back in before my two year old noticed I was gone. She caught me at the front door, though, and then there was a tantrum because she wanted to be outside too....See MoreRelated Professionals
Lyons Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers · Williamsburg Landscape Contractors · Centereach Landscape Contractors · Cockeysville Landscape Contractors · Fort Hunt Landscape Contractors · Fort Payne Landscape Contractors · Lantana Landscape Contractors · Milford Landscape Contractors · New Braunfels Landscape Contractors · Pleasanton Landscape Contractors · Goldenrod Landscape Contractors · San Pablo Landscape Contractors · Citrus Heights Swimming Pool Builders · Drexel Hill Swimming Pool Builders · South Miami Heights Swimming Pool Builders- 12 years ago
- 12 years ago
- 12 years ago
- 12 years ago
- 12 years ago
- 12 years ago
- 12 years ago
- 12 years ago
- 12 years ago
Related Stories

GARDENING GUIDES5 Great Grasses for a New Lawn
Learn about maintenance, wear tolerance, ideal climate and more for these top turf choices to pick the right one for you
Full Story
GREAT HOME PROJECTSHow to Replace Your Lawn With a Garden
New project for a new year: Lose the turfgrass for energy savings, wildlife friendliness and lower maintenance
Full Story
FRONT YARD IDEASBefore and After: Front Lawn to Prairie Garden
How they did it: Homeowners create a plan, stick to it and keep the neighbors (and wildlife) in mind
Full Story
GARDENING GUIDESHow to Stop Worrying and Start Loving Clay Soil
Clay has many more benefits than you might imagine
Full Story
texas_weed