Here in zone 6 fall beets, carrots and kale went in a couple of weeks ago, and fall cabbage were set out as plants sown in mid June. This week Asian radishes and escarole. Next week turnips. Early Sept. lettuces.

hoovb, Hmm, that's a good idea! If I plant some border plants along there to cover the edge, i could work... but I am a bit worried about impacting the stability of the whole slab. The HOA replaced the fences recently and you can see, so it may have been their digging the new posts that caused it to sink and break (it was like that when we bought the place in May) so maybe they will repair it for me.

Bon, I'm glad you found useful info in a thread this old. Amy, Bundles of onions for transplanting in the ground at this time of the year are not available because the plants would not grow and perform like those planted in spring. Bulbing onions bulb up in response to temperature and daylength, with day-length meaning the number of hours of daylight per day. We plant our tiny onion plants in the ground in winter when the daylength is fairly low, and they bulb up a few months later as the temperature and daylength reach the right range for them. Planting them when the daylength is long in summer and beginning to grow shorter as the summer weeks pass by wouldn't give you the results you want. What would happen is that shortly after you planted them in summer, they would react to the current daylength and try to bulb up now---giving you bulbs about the same size as the plants you just planted. You cannot plant onion seed outdoors in the fall and overwinter the plants in the ground unless you live somewhere like south Texas where winter temperatures usually stay above freezing all winter. Your tiny onion plants would freeze at some point here in Oklahoma because they usually freeze once the temperatures hit the low 20s. Sometimes it doesn't kill them---they might freeze back to the ground and then regrow, but repeatedly freezing back to the ground and regrowing over and over throughout the winter uses up all their energy and makes it less likely you'll get large onion bulbs (or any bulbs at all) in the spring. What is more likely is that even if you got the seed to sprout and grow and to somehow survive winter's low temperatures, they still would be likely to bolt (form flowerheads, bloom and set seeds) instead of bulbing up in the spring. Autumn is the right time to plant multiplier onions. Most companies that sell multiplier onions to southern customers only ship them in the fall precisely because that is the right planting time for them. Southern Exposure Seed Exchange usually has a nice selection of perennial onions. You can order them any time in the summer, and they will ship them at the right time for your zone in the fall. I'll link their perennial onion page for you to give you an idea of what is available. There are many other sources as well. I just happen to like SESE because it has varieties known to perform in the south. You probably could sow seed now for multiplying onions like Evergreen White Bunching onion. I've only sown seed for them in late winter/early spring but think it likely the seed would sprout and grow at almost any time of the year. Robert, You're ahead of me. I did actually get my seed box out yesterday and flip through it to see what I have, but I haven't planted any of them yet. I will soon, though. I'm ready for fall and looking forward to it as well, but we have to survive the long, hot, summer first. Since I'm further south than pretty much everyone else in OK (Cooke County, TX, sits directly to my west, south and east), my fall planting dates are later than almost everyone else's here in OK. Dawn Here is a link that might be useful: Perennial Onions at SESE

Thank you Craig, this year I had them under lights, before I grew them outside in the porch. Now they are too big for indoors so I keep them outside. I bring the tomatoes inside for the night. The porch has morning sun afternoon shade. I am also growing the UF varieties, we will keep notes to see how they do in our gardens. I was in St Lucia last week, they have the ideal weather and soil, they were growing bananas for Europe export and at the same time they can grow veggies like tomatoes. Thank you buckeyefaninfl, I used the planting guides just as a guideline and then I make my own dates according to the time I have and the weather. I started kale and Oriental greens already because they can take the heat if I keep them in the shade, where I have them they get about 1-2 hours of sun, soon I will put them in the garden after I plant the pole beans. I am not growing sweet peppers for the fall because I have an abundance of peppers right now from the spring season same with eggplants. I just roasted a big bunch of peppers and eggplants, more to harvest. I have a bumper crop of guavas and that keeps me busy making preserves, less time to get the garden work done... Silvia