I've been growing both from seed for the last few years. They are easy to grow from seed and they grow like a weed. I typically plant these in the second week of April with the plan to repot them outside sometime after May 15th (in Chicago). Be sure to "score" the outer seed casing and then soak them in water overnight (use a fingernail clipper to just notch the seed). If you plant them too early they will inter-twine and you'll spend a lot of time untwisting them. In mu opinion the Cardinal Climber is going to be vey similar to the Cypress vine. You could just go with one if you want to save some effort. Good luck.

i do have them, for your edelwiess and tropical mix. sound good?? plmk medontdo merry christmas

Hyacinth Bean is supposed to grow well here in MI z5, gets quite large. It is an annual. Our local Garden Column writer had an article on it a while ago, as a suggestion for next summer. I think the flowers are pink. Moonflower might be a night-blooming vine to think about. Looks like white Morning Glory. Scent is very attractive for some folks. Also an annual. You might try starting some things from seed, get a head start. I always bought my Cardinal plants, so they got bloom time, were growing well before the end of summer. Clematis is a great vine, comes in many colors and various flower shapes. It is a perennial, so it can take a couple years to really get going well. However the flower reward is worth it, in my opinion. There are 3 bloom periods, which the different named plants can use. Some are early season, others mid-season, while others bloom in late summer, early fall. Just check the labels, so you know which time to expect bloom, when to trim the vines back. Lots of good information on the Clematis forum here on GW. I have had great luck with the clematis plants with Polish names, Pope John Paul II, and a purple one, can't remember it. Terrific bloom over long time period, starting the first year. I was pretty surprised at that. Has just gotten even better since!

I have some red Cypress Vine seeds. They're still on the vine, but after this 3-day rainy spell ends, I'll harvest them for you. Also, if you have room for it, I can send you some of my Salvia sylvestris. I didn't even know I had hummers until I saw a Ruby Throated on the Salvia. It seems that I accidentally planted a lot of hummer magnets! Check out my list, and lmk what you want. I don't see much on your list I need right now, except maybe a truckload of Meadow Rue (host for my Swallowtails:>) Thanks for peeking at my list, your flower Bud, Sharon