I am looking for Carolina allspice Athens. If any one have some seeds to share please LMk. In return ,my seed listing updated. Please, take look might have some thing interest you. You can email me direct or posted here. I also have fresh C. sinensis & Oleifera .

You have seeds? My own in just beginning to bloom in what I heard today is the coolest, wettest May on record. Don't wait till Spring - Clothiers database and Druse both suggest Calycanthus floridus , Carolina allspice , sow fresh seed outdoors in the fall (warm, cold, cool germinator, needs extended weeks at all three seasons to break seed dormancy)

My vote would be for Wintersweet. There are quite a few reasons for this. 1 - I've lost Calycanthus at least 3 times due to lack of water, even though I watered them as often as I thought about it. None of my 4 wintersweets have EVER been watered and they've never missed a beat. 2- Wintersweet grows into a plant that could be easily pruned into a tree. Calycanthus would be hard to develop a leader to shape into a trunk. It's more branchy from the bottom. 3 - Wintersweet is a much stronger fragrance. On certain days it carries in the air. Calycanthus does not, and as often as not the fragrance is comparable to rotten strawberries. As many of my visitors hate the smell as like it. 4 - Wintersweet blooms in the winter when your soul is hungry for something to enjoy. Calycanthus blooms in early summer right along with every other thing on the planet! I like Calycanthus , and collect as many varieties as I can... and baby them along. But wintersweet is far more valuable to me.

Don't know where to get it, or if it will even grow here. I had it in SC, but tried to grow it in what was then 9b, and it didn't survive the nematodes and the summer rains. It says hardy to Z9b, but I believe you'd have to plant it in a container. I know people up in 8b grow it, but the only other FL grower I've seen was on Dave's Garden from St. Pete and they said it didn't have any fragrance and didn't grow well. I guess it depends on what part of 9a you're in. I remember this shrub fondly, and would love to try it, but don't think it's going to do well here.