Ticked off with these leonotis leonurus seeds

14 years ago

Well

This year I traded someone some seeds in exchange for leonotis leonurus, but after seeing the seedling for a few weeks, I realize now that they didn't send me leonotis leonurus, but actually leonotis nepetifolia instead. Now, I'm not too upset about this, because the seeds that I gave away weren't incredibly rare or hard to find, but it's just so irritating when you don't receive what someone tells you you're going to get.

But, I digress. I'd still like to try leonotis leonurus sometime and in the meantime I have a TON of leonotis nepetifolia seedlings that I have no idea what to do with.

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debbiep_gw
14 years ago
I know what you mean,I've been trying to replace leonotis leonurus for two years and I always get leonotis nepetifolia from trades.I guess I will have to buy it.Debbie
jaybirdy
14 years ago
What is the difference between the leonurus and the nepetafolia? I looked them both up and saw they both had orange flowers.I grew one of them and it got extremely tall.Richter's Herbs sells seeds.
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Docmom, I am in central Oklahoma, zone 7. I have verbena bonariensis growing and am encouraging it a lot suddenly. I snubbed it for years but last year I intentionally threw out a lot of seeds to grow among little bluestem because I liked a combination I saw on a post here on GW of it growing with some grasses, it was by a person posting from a place called 'The Farm', I think in Canada. I fell in love. Its winter hardy here. When it got real hot, the early spring blooms died back but its blooming back in force now. I don't notice it being invasive but its so easy to pull I can't see it being a problem. In the past I'd sort of let a few stay in the ground which was good because it gave me seeds stock last fall. You can yank one straight out of the ground and replant it, which makes it extremely transplantable. This is some kind of reliably cold hardy lantana I got cuttings from two years ago, this one never shuts down and is the earliest to bloom. It blooms orange (with no pink) and its the heaviest bloomer of any type I've grown except for 'Dallas Red'. This lantana puts 'Miss Huff' to shame on performance and cold hardiness, the stems at the base of the plant were still green last spring and leafed out quite early. Dallas Red isn't hardy but is the fastest growing and most bloomingest non cold hardy lantana I have ever grown. A plant set out in spring will get big fast. I need to find out about this lantana or perhaps just name it myself. I think lots of people would be interested in it. It produces some seeds. I noticed two or three small baby plants under all the foliage and am waiting to see what develops from them. It has vicious thorns along the stems so I know there is 'Horrida' in its genetic makeup but its noticably different and superior in ornamental qualities than the L. horrida I grew from seeds I ordered from Native American Plants, its smaller, leaves are smaller, plant more compact and it has much heavier blooms producing very few seeds. The L. horrida I have are somewhat coarse, get very large and produce masses of seeds plus the plant shuts down in summer, so do the L. camara.
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jaybirdy
14 years ago
The only difference i see is in the leaf shape.I think that the leaves of the nepetafolia are more attractive than those of the leonurus.I also suspect that the person who sent you the seeds didn't know there was more than one kind of Leonotis and thought they were sending you what you wanted.I didn't realize there was more than one kind until I read your post.If I were you I would be happy that you have some leonotis plants and use them the same way you were going to use the leonurus.The flowers will look the same and atract the same pollinators as the other one.It's still not too late to get leonurus seeds started.Happy gardenning!
debbiep_gw
14 years ago
If you ever grow both types you will notice the difference.The leonurus makes a shrub type bush and the foliage smells so good.It has a citrus scent.Nepetafolia reseeds everywhere and the foliage stinks to me.For me leonurus is perennial and nepetafolia is not but then you have all the seedlings.
jaybirdy
14 years ago
Debbie,thanks for the info.I would have never known any of this if you hadn't posted the ad.You learn something new all the time on here.I guess I'd be dissapointed too that I didn't get leonurus.....John
medontdo
14 years ago
i'd definately want the one with the citrus smell.i can't remember what someone sent me. i;ll have to look!! i love citrus smell. and well just fragrance!! and bushyness!! **grin** ~medo
debbiep_gw
14 years ago
I could never find a replacement in a trade so I ordered it this week.Its perennial here and I had it about twelve years but I guess I moved it around to much.I can't wait to have it in my garden again..Debbie
Chemocurl zn5b/6a Indiana
14 years ago
debbiep,

I'm curious as to where you ordered seeds from.

I found the link below to be interesting and the seller has several things that look rather 'special' to me, but I will not, I repeat, will not be ordering any seeds until I have planted or shared all the excess that I have.

Sue

Here is a link that might be useful: White Lionstail or Leonotis leonurus Alba RARE12 seeds
karyn1
14 years ago
I'm not sure which variety I had a couple years ago but I hated it. They were bushy on the bottom but sent up a 9'+ flower stalk. I was expecting something half that size or smaller and the spent seed heads were sharp!
poisondartfrog
14 years ago
I've had trouble getting L. leonurus correctly labeled in trade also but this year I bought Leonotis leonurus alba seeds from a commercial seed company. If they truly bloom white, I am going to be delighted.
I was getting a little concerned because it took them a while to germinate, but they are finally up and growing. I can't wait!!
Alana
debbiep_gw
14 years ago
Chemocurl I ordered the plant from ebay from a seller that I use.It came Monday and its the right one.
Alana,I ordered the white leonotis seeds from a commercial source to last year,it was not white when it bloomed.More of a deep orange/red.Also it was not the leonurus variety either but the nepetifoli but it could have been labeled nepetifoli on the website..Debbie
poisondartfrog
14 years ago
Oh no. I will keep my fingers crossed!
The source is one I have used for years in Great Britain and I have never had a problem before but it won't be my first disappointing purchase and won't be the last if it does not work out. I will try to remember to post when I am certain.

Ticked off with these leonotis leonurus seeds

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