I'm on the verge of buying a J&P White Dawn that looks unbelievably healthy (even though I normally buy only own-root, and generally boycott foreign-owned growers). The virus-free certification may have knocked me off the fence. As to Peace, I've never seen one that looked anything but horrible. Down here, and even in Northwest Arkansas, they are just a bunch of skinny, leafless sticks, with blooms on the ends. Are there places where Peace actually looks good without endless pampering? I doubt any of the wretched specimens I've seen were own-root.

I saw a stunning red rose in front of a town home near the Met. It fit the tight space very well. I think that it is Red Cascade, but am not sure. Brooklyn Botanic Garden has several spetacular, fully-grown Dublin Bay climbers, but that rose might be too big for you. I grow both Blaze Improved and Don Juan. BI's bloom last longer, but the blooms are not particulary pretty and resmeble double knockouts in color and shape. DJ has big, silky and very fragrant blooms. However, DJ gets a lot more blackspot than BI here in my garden. DJ has a upright growth habit, while Blaze will through out canes in all directions, which might annoys the neighbor. My guess is that you might want to avoid BI. BI is a work horse in terms of giving out blooms, while DJ is stingierw with repeats. My plants are very young (2-year old), so maybe someone around area know from first hand experience how they do once they are mature. BTW, if you do like BI, get Blaze Improved, not Blaze as BI has better repeat, or so I heard.

Have you try your local municipal rose garden? We have one in San Jose, CA that has many old fashioned varieties along with hybrid teas. I volunteered many years ago trimming roses. I got some rose cuttings from them. We have hot summer(dry heat) with mild winters. Roses do well here. I have good luck with Bishop Castles-David Austin rose. Don't get Janet. I had it in a big pot and got toasted in the heat last summer. Bishop Castle has pink cup like flowers with many petals. It also have a wonderful old rose fragrance. It's easy to start from cuttings too. It has an arching habit and grows to 4' wide in 2 yr. I don't spray or use chemicals on my roses. I don't even fertilize them. They pretty much fend for themselves. Flagstaff, Graham Thomas, Abraham Darby and Crown Princess Margareta are good choices too. I don't have them in my yard but other people in our areas recommend them. See the link below. I also like Juliet Child(hybrid teas), angel face, Oklahoma. Juliet Child is a pretty yellow rose that looks like old fashioned rose and has a light fragrance. I had mistaken it for DA's Golden celebration when it bloomed the first year in my garden. It doesn't get as big and rambling as DA's. That's why I like it. Angel face and Oklahoma are very fragrant and good choices too. I hope this gives you some ideas. I also have some no id roses that are very fragrant. If you want to trade, send me email off line. Here is a link that might be useful: David Austin roses

L&P is under patent and legally cuttings can't be traded until 2021. Seeds from L&P (and I've not seen mine set hips so no seeds) would not produce a L&P plant as it is a hybrid and seeds of hybrids do not guarantee that you will get the same rose, more than likely you won't.