have u tasted them yet, they remind me of cheery tomatoes which i hope they dont taster like :).

Our family have been growing gogi for over 20 years. There are 2 different varieties of Lycium barbarum, and they have rather different growth pattern. The large leave variety is grown primarily for its delicious leaves which is usually used as a soup vegetable. In my garden, zone 15, it has providing us with enough large leaves almost all year around. The branches is almost cut down to the ground during harvesting to stimulate new growth and prevent mildewing. However in mother's house in the hot central valley,zone 14, once the weather really warms up, the leave become rather small. It will produce the berries if you do not cut down the vines. However it does produce too many berries. The second variety is literally named the small leaf gogi will produces rather small and narrow leaves most of the year, and the leaf is too small for practical cooking purpose, But it produces immense amount of berries, and here again its growth pattern is different in the Stockton area. The berries is much more plentiful and much larger in my mother's garden inspite of fact that both plants came originally from the same plant over 10 years ago. My suggestion is to grow and use both varieties. For around a dollar in an Asian market you can buy a bunch, strip away the leaves, and make enough cutting for 100 plants or you can get a bunch from a Chinese friends since it is the most common and easiest plant to grow. I have seen it grown in sandy soil in San Francisco. I grow it in a rather heavy clay soil. The berry variety is a little different story. I have been sucessful in making many cuttings, but it is much slower than with the other variety. The fresh seeds are rather easier to start, but you will have a long wait before you can harvest enough berries to consume. If you can afford it I would suggest buying it rooted from a nursery. A pound of dried seeds can be purchased in most Asian market for a few dollars.

One of those little pink raisin things has more than enough seeds. Just cut it up and soak it-you'll see all the seeds.

I bought one from OSH in Los Angeles, them seem to carry a few of them, but not always in stock. I've also seen them at farmer's markets. My favorite source, however, is the bulk bin at Whole Foods. The little dried fruits are full of viable seeds. Yeah, you'll wait 3 years for fruit but I just scavenge what's been spilled by careless customers, so seeds are free as far as I'm concerned. I've also grown scarlet runner bean scavenged from whole foods floor. Recently scored a handful of buckwheat - gonna try a fall crop for seed for a big green manure crop next spring. Anyway, unless you want instant gratification, try the bulk bins. A dedicated individual could grow an entire farm from their stuff.