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PROBLEM: big holes developing in back yard

loves2read
16 years ago

Hope someone can offer some advice. about this problem, I usually read/post over on Building a Home forum (and will post this there as well since lots of traffic there.)

We are having problem w/some big holes at the back of our fenced yard and need some advice about how to handled them without sinking a lot of money into the work. We plan to build new home within the year and the resell on houses in our neighborhood won't support much upside expense.

We are original buyers of current home that is 20+ years old. It is on corner subdivision lot about .25 acre or little larger which backs to small creek. Creek area is about 30 ft wide, about a 3 ft drop from our wall to side of creek but water course itself is only about 2-3 ft wide.

Most of time usually not much moving water but in times of heavy rain, it can get about 3 ft deep and totally fill in the creek bed. Picture something like a wide-bottom U.

The water has never come over the top of the wall we have across back of our yard but it has come to the very top...

When we bought the house, the builder would not agree to put in a wall to separate backyard which sloped down to the creek bank from the creek...we did not know how often or how much the water would rise when there was heavy rains (This lot is not considered flood plain territory) and we wanted to capture as much backyard area as we could...

...so we had railroad tie wall (which was allowed by city) built that was about 3 ft high...the right corner abutted the bridge on where the street crosses creek (and goes over into another part of subdivision behind us) and ran across the back of property line. When the house next to ours on left side was sold, those people put in a similar tie wall and put in a pool later.

There is about a 2 ft slope from house to the back fence/wall but we never really had problem w/soil eroding in back yard until after we had the tie wall replaced a couple of years ago w/a concrete wall.

The guy who built it put in footings and built internal support w/rebar rods and chicken wire...when they tore down the tie wall they had to dig out part of the yard to get some of the ties out...they put some gravel into hole behind wall and then added dirt...there was some erosion after a couple of rains and the guy came back and put dirt into the holes--he didn't re-sod--we thought the grass would grow back quickly enough without that but it was slow because of summer drought.

Later some depressions/holes started to develop...my foot would sink in when I was cutting the grass...

DH would get some dirt out of the creek bed and fill them in but this winter and spring we have had quite a bit of strong heavy rains and now we have several holes---biggest is about 2 ft deep and 2 feet across but there are others that are there and they are starting to work their way across from left to right...some parts of yard about 4 ft away from fence are soft and give when you mash your foot down---but we have had almost 6-8 inches of rain in last 2 weeks so ground has moisture...

We have a yard guy who says he can fix it by digging out the places where the holes are -- adding a good bedding of small gravel--and then refilling w/dirt and adding sod...

Yesterday he checked to make sure there are no sink holes along the the creekbed, especially where the worst hole is, which might show that the area under the wall is eroding as well and the wall will fail. There are no cracks or signs that the wall has any unusual runoff through the french drains...

So does anyone have any real landscaping experience to know if we need to get someone w/more technical knowledge to look at this problem...

When we built the first wall 20 years ago we had someone come in to give a bid who was from some landscape construction co. He wanted to spend a LOT of money, do all kinds of underground stabilization and build a masonry wall--would have cost 10 thousand 20 years ago--and no one else in neighborhood was doing that--some people did not even put in a wall between their yard and creek, they just moved their fence line back further into the yard, but we wanted a bigger yard...

We did not have problem w/this type of erosion until the concrete wall replaced the tie wall...

No one that I know of has had any real problem w/serious erosion of their back yards whether they have a wall or not..

So will what we plan to do be enough to stop the erosion?

We are trying not to spend any more money on this house than we really have to because we know we probably won't get it back when we sell, but we can't sell the house if there are holes like this.

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